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Old 01-28-2010, 01:12 PM   #1
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Toyota - sayanora ?

I am starting to think Toyota could need a bail out before this is all over.


Toyota Extends Recall to China and Europe - NYTimes.com
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they're good cars.

or they used to be.
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Old 01-28-2010, 01:20 PM   #3
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They knew about this since 07 and tried to blame it on floor mats

I smell lots of lawsuits
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I will be shopping for a car this year, and this really makes me think twice about Toyota.

I haven't heard the actual number of incidents/accidents/deaths associated with this defect, but it seems like it's been handled very poorly.

I love my 2 Hondas: a 2002 CR-V, a 2008 Civic Hybrid. The only recall on my old Pilot (now returned off lease) was the tire fill stem caps!
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Honda rules. I wish I drove one.

(I had a car once, those days are long gone, though. 135,000 miles does that.)
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My family owns three recalled Camries, one of which we purchased two weeks ago.
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i love my 2 Chevy's, no problems here.

Maybe GM can absorb some of Toyota's lost sales....either way Toyota's "Quality" mantle is sure taking a big hit.
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The most boring cars on earth. No offense to anyone who drives one.
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when i'm home, i enjoy driving my parent's Prius.
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That sounds like a model: The Toyota Sayanora.

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Old 01-28-2010, 08:08 PM   #11
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We help destroy the planet with our Toyota SUV.
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when i'm home, i enjoy driving my parent's Prius.
no offense, but i would never admit to that. Easily the worst automotive design in the last 30 years.
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Old 01-28-2010, 08:47 PM   #13
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no offense, but i would never admit to that. Easily the worst automotive design in the last 30 years.


no offense, but i don't care. they're a great ride and you save an amazing amount on gas.

i also don't care that much about cars, period. nice cars are nice, i suppose, but getting excited of them seems pointless. all they do is pollute and make people fat(ter).
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i love toyota and nissan. both will pretty much take everything you throw at them and keep on going.

my parents daihatsu, on the other hand, is a scary piece of shit. i wouldn't want to be in it in a minor accident.
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We help destroy the planet with our Toyota SUV.
I thought you believed in American Exceptionalism?! Hannity and Beck are very disappointed in your tea partiness...
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no offense, but i don't care. they're a great ride and you save an amazing amount on gas.

i also don't care that much about cars, period. nice cars are nice, i suppose, but getting excited of them seems pointless. all they do is pollute and make people fat(ter).
Actually i was commenting more on the looks of the Prius rather than the functionality of it.

My little Cobalt costs half as much as a Prius and still gets 37mpg, looks great, and it is easily one of the most reliable cars i have ever driven.

All cars pollute to some degree, even Hybrids are manufactured somewhere in a factory that pollutes.

Just something to think about:

Environmental Costs of Buying a Toyota Prius: Weighing the Harms and Benefits of Hybrid Vehicles

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When analyzing the environmental costs of a car, the energy to plan, build, and transport the car must be taken into account, not just the car's miles per gallon figures. The Prius has two engines, gas and electric. The electric engine is made from nickel mined and smelted in Sudbury, Ontario, Canada. From Ontario, the nickel is transported to Wales, UK to be refined, then shipped to China where it is made into nickel foam, and finally to Toyota's plant in Japan where the nickel is made into a hybrid battery.

James L. Martin, president of the senior advocacy group called the 60 Plus Organization, claims in his article "The Hidden Cost of Driving a Prius" the hybrid battery travels over 10,000 miles from start to finish, which entails major fuel costs and pollution from transportation.



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The production chain from start to finish usually is not taken into account. Producers of course don't tell you, and many consumers are not aware such a thing exists, or at least one could come to that conclusion.
While being an argument against how Toyota manufactures and markets its Prius car (though such a production process is but uncommon), I support the R&D into such kinds of engines.

But damn, why must they make such cars so awfully boring and ugly?
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But damn, why must they make such cars so awfully boring and ugly?
potential new company slogan:

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Though I guess Toyota's quality control wouldn't let the "dont" slip.
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