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Old 01-30-2010, 06:21 PM   #46
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I have a '95 Saturn that I'm planning on running into the ground. It's got 130,000 miles on it, and I expect it to last at least another two years. Runs great, never had any problem with it beyond the usual matinenance repairs. (knock on wood )

It's a good little car. Sorry to see Saturn is going away, because I would have bought another one in a heartbeat.
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Old 01-30-2010, 07:48 PM   #47
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I have a 9-year-old Honda Civic Si...and frankly I kind of want to hang on to it for another 3-4 years because it's been a great car and also because nobody expects a corporate lawyer to drive one.
Well the Golf is seven years old. I have never bought a new car.


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Old 01-30-2010, 08:10 PM   #48
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My first car was a GTI. It was stolen.
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Old 01-30-2010, 08:32 PM   #49
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Apart from this incident, Toyota's are pretty good cars. My brother-in-law's family have been driving Toyota's for years without problems. Big thumbs up for successfully marketing the first sensible hybrid.
but it looks ugly waah!1111
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Old 01-30-2010, 09:38 PM   #50
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damn, if i'd known about this then i would've used it as an excuse to get out of a speeding ticket.
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Old 02-03-2010, 06:05 PM   #51
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When I started this thread
I thought this thing had the potential to blow up big

this thing is morphing all over the place

some of it is alarmist, but it does not matter.

Perception is reality. Toyota will not remain number one.

Before this is over, they will take abig hit. We are talking hundreds of millions, perhaps billions of dollars.

There will be congressional hearings. A stiga is upon Toyota.
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"If you have one of the affected Toyota models, you should not drive the car until it has been checked out," Nick Freeman, a Manchester-based traffic lawyer who has made his name defending several famous footballers in speeding cases, said.

"The recall puts you on notice that there could be a fault, which means that you assume responsibility. You could be held criminally and civilly responsible for an accident and, in the case of a fatal accident, you could be charged with death by dangerous driving. If you have one of these cars, don't drive it."
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Old 02-03-2010, 09:44 PM   #53
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A lot of talk and focus recently on the wireless throttle systems getting a glitch and causing the cars to speed up out of control.
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I think what will save Toyota's reputation is that there haven't been spectacular fatal accidents so far. (Like the Ford Explorer/Bridgestone thing) Well, maybe that one with the State Trooper?

I don't know that actual fatality number so far, but I think that that is indicative that it isn't very high. If there were an unusually high number of deaths, the media would have more pics of horrific crash scenes.

I think the discussion about the increase in software and "drive by wire" use in cars is good. I trust microprocessors and such, but a mechanical linkage feels safer.
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Are cell phones in the car still safe?

If I'm correct, there have been nine fatalities where Toyota's were involved and this is at least assumed to be the reason.
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I have a 9-year-old Honda Civic Si...and frankly I kind of want to hang on to it for another 3-4 years because it's been a great car and also because nobody expects a corporate lawyer to drive one.

I drive a 1999 Honda Accord. I have had it since Nov 1999 and I have a 134,000 miles on it . I do not want to buy a new car because it has and is running well. I think I will hold off one more year before buying a new car.
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I think the discussion about the increase in software and "drive by wire" use in cars is good. I trust microprocessors and such, but a mechanical linkage feels safer.
maybe there at least needs to be a similar amount of redundancy in drive by wire as there is fly by wire - which isn't really possible to the best of my knowledge, but you'd assume that it would have been tested to within an inch of it's life before being released on the public.
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i just saw an item on cbs news with some stupid woman driving her prius around knowing her car has physical problems with the brakes, saying they don't work properly.

that kind of disregard for other people should be illegal.
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I hate to do this, but it's sayonara.
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