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Old 11-30-2009, 06:33 PM   #61
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You don't think that's not just some generic fat picture? I just really, really, think they never got very far in researching this article.
That's my suspicion, too. I also think it's silly they didn't even bother to mention when this policy was implemented and why Ms. Sharifa is only making a fuss about it now.
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Old 11-30-2009, 07:41 PM   #62
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Wow! It's quite ridiculous for that to be a policy, but I agree to an extent.

We go to college to be productive citizens....why can't we go to college to be healthy, productive citizens? A healthy, lifestyle would lead to lower health care costs for sure. It could help curb obese people to get off the motorized shopping carts, scooters, and handicap spots. What's wrong with challenging a person's exercise habits when you challenge them in so much else?

Plus, it could show that obesity is not a disease, just a consequence of somebody's lifestyle. I mean...how many fat people are in Somalia?
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Wow! It's quite ridiculous for that to be a policy, but I agree to an extent.

We go to college to be productive citizens....why can't we go to college to be healthy, productive citizens?
While looking at the website, I saw some pictures. Certainly some of those professors seem to be at least overweight, if not obese, only their BMI would truly tell. While I have no sympathy for a whiny student who has no case here, I think if the university were trying to make a point to their students to be "healthy productive citizens", they should also make a point to their faculty. This policy seems to only affect students.
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While looking at the website, I saw some pictures. Certainly some of those professors seem to be at least overweight, if not obese. While I have no sympathy for a whiny student who has no case here, I think if the university were trying to make a point to their students to be "healthy productive citizens", they should also make a point to their faculty.
Oh, yes, definitely. That reminds me of my fat teacher in the 7th grade who taught nutrition.
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Old 11-30-2009, 08:42 PM   #65
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Somehow it's Obama's fault that we have a "nation of fatties". It has to be.

No, it's not President Obama fault.

One of the reasons, I think, we have this rise in obesity is high fructose corn syrup. Food companies started using it to sweetened their products in the late 70s. Why? Because it's a whole lot cheaper than pure cane sugar.
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I think we have a rise in obesity because people seem content to spend more effort justifying their unhealthy lifestyles than just getting healthy! Also everything seems so damned politically correct. Someone asked me why I was working out more and trying to lose more weight. I have a very good reason - I have chronic joint problems in my right foot and the *only* thing that ever helps is losing weight (I've tried drugs, wearing a cast from my toes to my knee for months....) but then the person turns around and says I'm too skinny already and must have low self-esteem. As if I can't possibly lose weight a healthy way without spiraling out of control. God forbid I care about my weight and how it effects my overall health. Now women can't even be healthy and NORMAL sized without people saying "you must have an eating disorder" when we are working out and eating healthy.
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Wow! It's quite ridiculous for that to be a policy, but I agree to an extent.

We go to college to be productive citizens....why can't we go to college to be healthy, productive citizens? A healthy, lifestyle would lead to lower health care costs for sure. It could help curb obese people to get off the motorized shopping carts, scooters, and handicap spots. What's wrong with challenging a person's exercise habits when you challenge them in so much else?

Plus, it could show that obesity is not a disease, just a consequence of somebody's lifestyle. I mean...how many fat people are in Somalia?
Lots of fat Somalian people in London, whether they were fat before they arrived is another question.
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We should have a choice to be fatties or not.
The new movement is trying to limit choice, let alone making us drive crap cars and squashing good ones.

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Interesting that you do not let this freedom of choice shape all your policies... hypocricy?
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One of the reasons, I think, we have this rise in obesity is high fructose corn syrup. Food companies started using it to sweetened their products in the late 70s. Why? Because it's a whole lot cheaper than pure cane sugar.
DlNG DING DING!!!

That stuff is terrible.
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Interesting that you do not let this freedom of choice shape all your policies... hypocricy?
People love the freedom to choose when they can tell you what your choices are.
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BMI is not a scientifically accurate way to determine if someone is obese or not. The formula for calculating BMI was meant to calculate obesity in WHOLE POPULATIONS, not individuals.

Top 10 Reasons Why The BMI Is Bogus : NPR
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BMI is not a scientifically accurate way to determine if someone is obese or not. The formula for calculating BMI was meant to calculate obesity in WHOLE POPULATIONS, not individuals.

Top 10 Reasons Why The BMI Is Bogus : NPR


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BMI was meant to calculate obesity in WHOLE POPULATIONS,
as a whole population the U S and many individual states have obesity problems. it is trending the wrong way



an 8 year old that weighs 150 pounds has a problem

an 18 year old at 150 pounds probably would not

likewise a 4 foot tall person at 200 pounds has more of a problem than a 6 foot tall person at 200 pounds.

A BMI of 30 is a problem. Yes, you can find exceptions.

large bones, decent muscle mass will weigh more
but a spare tire around your gut is not healthy.

It seems like some people just want to 'blow up' and do away with the BMI scale.

There should be a tool, gauge that people can use to monitor their weight, through out their life and growing patterns (height).

If not BMI, than what would you replace it with?
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If not BMI, than what would you replace it with?

the article suggests waist size. also, body fat % is a helpful tool. weight in and of itself is meaningless.
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There was another post here suggesting that the picture was PC, that's what I was referring to
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