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Old 02-16-2010, 11:25 PM   #76
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I found a Contract of Carriage from a major airline
they can throw a stinky person off of the plane, too.
Changed your mind? I did see the original. Nice edit.
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i've sat in front of two three year olds (maybe a little bit older) on a 14 hour flight and they never made a noise. i've also sat across from some absolute little shits on a three hour flight....and that was the connecting flight right after the flight with the great kids. i had my faith in parenting built up and knocked down so quickly.

it's the luck of draw. some parents know how to control their children, some don't even try. some children can handle flight and some can't. just like catching a bus, you deal with who you deal with. if you don't like it, call net jets.


You're on public transportation, you have to practice a little tolerance.
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Old 02-16-2010, 11:42 PM   #78
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Can you give him some Benadryl to knock him out?
I know some parents do that, but I wouldn't feel comfortable giving him medication he didn't really need.

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i've sat in front of two three year olds (maybe a little bit older) on a 14 hour flight and they never made a noise. i've also sat across from some absolute little shits on a three hour flight....and that was the connecting flight right after the flight with the great kids. i had my faith in parenting built up and knocked down so quickly.

it's the luck of draw. some parents know how to control their children, some don't even try. some children can handle flight and some can't. just like catching a bus, you deal with who you deal with. if you don't like it, call net jets.
Parenting is turning out to be a lot harder than I thought it was when I was in the armchair. I'm not sure how much even the best parent can do about a kid whose ears are hurting and has been cramped in a seat for hours. It's not the same as a kid throwing himself on the floor in the store because he can't have the toy he wants. It really does come down to the kid and what they can/can't handle. My son has flown a lot in his short life--Transpacific three times (this will be his fourth), Australia, Japan, San Francisco, Portland, Oregon. And he's always been great. The problem is that he keeps changing. His ability to handle air travel well in the past may not have much bearing on how he does now.
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Parenting is turning out to be a lot harder than I thought it was when I was in the armchair. I'm not sure how much even the best parent can do about a kid whose ears are hurting and has been cramped in a seat for hours. It's not the same as a kid throwing himself on the floor in the store because he can't have the toy he wants. It really does come down to the kid and what they can/can't handle. My son has flown a lot in his short life--Transpacific three times (this will be his fourth), Australia, Japan, San Francisco, Portland, Oregon. And he's always been great. The problem is that he keeps changing. His ability to handle air travel well in the past may not have much bearing on how he does now.
i feel bad that i deleted my line about how different children can handle flight completely differently. i also ought to have specified that crying and so-forth doesn't upset me in the slightest, you get that. really my problems with any children on planes come because of parents who are either obnoxious or don't try to stop their children from being so. but they'd be jerks on the ground or in the air. that's really what i was getting at in my post.

frankly, kids flying is fine with me. it's adults that suck at it.
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Changed your mind? I did see the original. Nice edit.


Were you on this plane?

The pilot returned to the gate and the passenger and her bags were removed by the RCMP.

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Romney threatened on flight out of Vancouver

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Republican politician Mitt Romney was physically threatened by a violent passenger on an Air Canada flight leaving Vancouver this morning.

Mr. Romney, who has been in Vancouver since Friday for the Olympic Winter Games, did not respond to the attack. Instead, he allowed the airline crew to deal with the incident, according to his spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom.

Mr. Romney, 62, and his wife, Ann, were sitting in Row 15 of the economy section of the Embrarer 190 airplane, waiting for the plane to take off when the incident happened.

The woman sitting in front of Mr. Romney’s wife dropped her seat back and when Mr. Romney asked her to move it upright for takeoff, the woman became “physically violent.” Another report said that the woman tried to strike Mr. Romney.

“Gov. Romney did not retaliate,” said Mr. Fehrnstrom.

Mr. Romney was not injured. The pilot returned to the gate and the passenger and her bags were removed by the RCMP.
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Were you on this plane?
Did Romney say passive aggressive shit to her?
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Were you on this plane?

The pilot returned to the gate and the passenger and her bags were removed by the RCMP.
crazy person removed from plane? who cares.

can we rename this thread "deep posts articles about everyday events that happen on planes"?
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Were you on this plane?

The pilot returned to the gate and the passenger and her bags were removed by the RCMP.
deep, you need to cut it out with these comments. call it whatever you want, but you are trolling. plain and simple. these inflammatory comments solely designed to stir the pot are not allowed. they're not. you're not playing devil's advocate. stop doing this as it is against the rules.
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frankly, kids flying is fine with me. it's adults that suck at it.
my kids fly better than me. and, as you know too well, we have to fly for like, days, to get anywhere interesting. i had, no word of a lie, 6 people approach me to say my daughters flew well when we went to the uk. me, on the other hand, i wanted to cry and have a tantrum in the aisle because i was so. goddamn. bored, and suffering from some kind of claustrophobia. and the r e l e n t l e s s drone of the engine was close to sending me over the edge.

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One of the last flights I was on was next to a kid with what was presumably her teenage mother and not-old granny. The kid touched my brand new Tony Martin book with greasy twistie hands, but that was hardly her fault. The two women were drinking Bundaberg rum and coke mixers, on a 70 minute flight, at midday, with a two-three year old. They were perfectly friendly passengers, though I couldn't blame the kid for anything.

More on topic, Cori has posted just about everything I wanted to write, but don't have the patience and eloquence to do so. There is the obvious point that the morbidly obese should never get to the point where they are, but it's not like someone needs to immediately shed 100 lbs just to get on a flight to visit family. Overweight prejudice is so rooted in comedy and culture that it's spilled over into society and really gotten beyond a joke.
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and, as you know too well, we have to fly for like, days, to get anywhere interesting.
Aussies.

I agree with the noise of the engines. Would love to fly the A380 just to see if the noise level really went down that much.
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I agree with the noise of the engines. Would love to fly the A380 just to see if the noise level really went down that much.
will let you know soon.
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Speaking of toddlers on planes - I flew to Florida with my then 11 month old daughter to visit family. At that age you don't have to buy them a seat, they're still small enough to be on your lap. At check-in, hubby and I were assured there was enough room on the flight to have the full row of three to ourselves which would make it easier to have the extra room.

When we were seated on the plane, it turned out we were sharing our aisle seat with a mid-50s-ish man who, turned out, was sitting separately from his wife. My daughter is always very calm and easy-going and she was standing on my lap cooing at him pre-take-off. A few minutes later while I was talking to hubby on my other side, the gentleman calmly and politely asked me if I had any napkins in my diaper bag. Turned out she threw up on his lap.

As mortified and apologetic as I was, I was also pregnant and prone to inappropriate reactions. I got the giggles and couldn't control myself...to the point of tears. Thing was, she NEVER threw up - not an exaggeration. Not even as a baby, never even spit up. So I figured that was her way of getting him out of her seat and in the hormonally inappropriate moment it struck me as hilarious.

Thankfully he was wearing those pants with teflon in them and it wasn't stinky - easy to clean up. Flight attendant moved him and we bought he and his wife several rounds of alcohol after he refused to take money for cleaning. He said he had young grandchildren and was really good about it, but I cringe at the thought of his version of events!
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and, as you know too well, we have to fly for like, days, to get anywhere interesting.
What are you talking about? Australia rocks! Wouldn't mind living there. . .
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Speaking of toddlers on planes - I flew to Florida with my then 11 month old daughter to visit family. At that age you don't have to buy them a seat, they're still small enough to be on your lap. At check-in, hubby and I were assured there was enough room on the flight to have the full row of three to ourselves which would make it easier to have the extra room.

When we were seated on the plane, it turned out we were sharing our aisle seat with a mid-50s-ish man who, turned out, was sitting separately from his wife. My daughter is always very calm and easy-going and she was standing on my lap cooing at him pre-take-off. A few minutes later while I was talking to hubby on my other side, the gentleman calmly and politely asked me if I had any napkins in my diaper bag. Turned out she threw up on his lap.

As mortified and apologetic as I was, I was also pregnant and prone to inappropriate reactions. I got the giggles and couldn't control myself...to the point of tears. Thing was, she NEVER threw up - not an exaggeration. Not even as a baby, never even spit up. So I figured that was her way of getting him out of her seat and in the hormonally inappropriate moment it struck me as hilarious.

Thankfully he was wearing those pants with teflon in them and it wasn't stinky - easy to clean up. Flight attendant moved him and we bought he and his wife several rounds of alcohol after he refused to take money for cleaning. He said he had young grandchildren and was really good about it, but I cringe at the thought of his version of events!
Wow. As a parent, I'm always so grateful for those kind of understanding people. This guy sounds extraordinarily understanding! Our son is still in the free "lap baby" category until August. I feel like we're pushing it with this transpacific trip though. But it's just so expensive to buy him a seat on a flight that distance.

One time on a flight to California, I think it was, they put all the parents with kids together in one section of the plane. I kind of liked that, since everyone around us was in the same boat.
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