Too fat- Miss San Antonio, "get off the tacos, get off the chips and the soda."

[deep]

Too fat- Miss San Antonio, "get off the tacos, get off the chips and the soda."

Linda Woods, the pageant board's spokeswoman admitted to telling the young queen to "get off the tacos, get off the chips and the soda."
Ramirez claims that Woods told her she was "just way too big," and that "this is not going to work" at a photo shoot in late November.

Bexar County Beauty Queen, Domonique Ramirez - Too Fat? - TIME NewsFeed

Once she won the crown, they should not have taken it away.

 

[Moonlit_Angel]

If the complaints over her alleged behavior are proven to be true, that's one thing, and I can understand the debate then.

If they're complaining about her weight, though, they're idiots. That is NOT "heavy". Not even close. I'd be thrilled if I got up to that weight.

Angela

 

[Liesje]

I'm not surprised enough to care. It's a beauty pageant, of course weight and looks are everything in this venue.

 

[Jive Turkey]

I'm not surprised enough to care. It's a beauty pageant, of course weight and looks are everything in this venue.

I was thinking the same thing. It's not like the comments were unsolicited, so to speak. I really dont see how this would be any different than a body builder being told he's getting too fat. It was their choice to enter onto such a superficial stage

 

[Liesje]

People just get so emotional over weight. It's just a number. We say it doesn't matter but apparently it does. When I did gymnastics, there was always and ideal weight. It is what it is. We're talking about laws of physics that you can't ignore. Weight and height matter. If you are too thin you are not getting enough energy, if you are too heavy you are over working yourself. Maybe I'm lucky that I can be emotionally unattached to my weight and just see it for what it is. There is always an "ideal" number (which changes depending on the level of fitness I expect from myself), but if I'm not right on it I'm not an emotional mess about it.

I don't like the double standard that women insist weight doesn't matter but then freak out any time it gets brought up. It's a beauty pageant for goodness sakes, we don't get to decide what weight is pretty the beauty pageant people do and if those girls don't like it they can do something else. Is that girl "fat"? I don't know, I really couldn't care less about beauty pageants.

 

[kramwest1]

I'm not surprised enough to care. It's a beauty pageant, of course weight and looks are everything in this venue.

I was thinking the same thing. It's not like the comments were unsolicited, so to speak. I really dont see how this would be any different than a body builder being told he's getting too fat. It was their choice to enter onto such a superficial stage

My only two questions are:

Why are there still beauty pageants?

Why does the media still report on beauty pageants?
(Miss America pageant is treated like breaking news.)

 

[MrsSpringsteen]

I think there are still beauty pageants because female looks are still considered something to be evaluated and compared. If they say it's not about looks-that you have to be smart, talented, etc. then why not just judge them on that and why still care about their looks and how they maintain their weight and all of that?

Nothing wrong with admiring beautiful women-I do and I enjoy looking at them too. But it does seem more and more outdated at this point. The newly crowned Miss America is 17, so maybe they're going to get younger and younger too. Over the hill at 20.

 

[kramwest1]

I think there are still beauty pageants because female looks are still considered something to be evaluated and compared. If they say it's not about looks-that you have to be smart, talented, etc. then why not just judge them on that and why still care about their looks and how they maintain their weight and all of that?

This is why I greatly admire every contestant on Jeopardy, and I like reading who the local National Merit Scholar finalists are in the paper.

Talent is another thing.

I like that pornstar Asia Carrera is a MENSA member.

Nothing wrong with admiring beautiful women-I do and I enjoy looking at them too. But it does seem more and more outdated at this point. The newly crowned Miss America is 17, so maybe they're going to get younger and younger too. Over the hill at 20.

I cringe every time I pass Toddlers And Tiaras while flipping TV channels.

 

[Jive Turkey]

Why are there still beauty pageants?

I guess for the same reason there are still Biggest Pumpkin competitions, Pie Eating Contests, Strong Man events, etc. If there are still people with an interest and people to enter, there will always be these events. I'm not really interested in any of them either (though strong man competitions are pretty cool to some degree), but there will always be people who are to fill the niche

 

[kramwest1]

I guess for the same reason there are still Biggest Pumpkin competitions, Pie Eating Contests, Strong Man events, etc. If there are still people with an interest and people to enter, there will always be these events. I'm not really interested in any of them either (though strong man competitions are pretty cool to some degree), but there will always be people who are to fill the niche

It was their choice to enter onto such a superficial stage

You are right.
It's just fairly foreign to me. Zero interest.


(Although, MetRx's World Strongest Men can lift cars and pull trucks and stuff. That's useful in my book )

 

[corianderstem]

Yeah, they know it's based on beauty, but heaven forbid that anyone try and challenge the notion that there's only one standard for beauty. Heaven forbid someone who's a fatty fatty fat fat size 4 or 6 (please note heavy sarcasm) instead of a size 0 be considered a valid beauty pageant contestant.

 

[the iron horse]

I think a better mantra would be:

Eat all the tacos you want, eat all the fried chips you want, drink whatever,
but get off the couch (or in front of your pc)....

and move!

Get some physical activity in your life.

 

[BVS]

I think a better mantra would be:

Eat all the tacos you want, eat all the fried chips you want, drink whatever,

That's not moderation.

Everyone knows, or at least should know this is a dumb mantra as well.

You cannot eat whatever and how much of whatever and just think you're fine as long as you "get off the couch".

What are we teaching kids these days?

 

[Liesje]

Yeah, they know it's based on beauty, but heaven forbid that anyone try and challenge the notion that there's only one standard for beauty. Heaven forbid someone who's a fatty fatty fat fat size 4 or 6 (please note heavy sarcasm) instead of a size 0 be considered a valid beauty pageant contestant.

I've watched some pageant show a few times and honestly, what annoys me more than weight is all the overdone make-up and hair, and the boobs. The girls' weights and figures are more in line with what I'd think of as healthy or average (of course fit), but nothing like, say, high fashion modeling.

 

[MsPurrl]

If the complaints over her alleged behavior are proven to be true, that's one thing, and I can understand the debate then.

If they're complaining about her weight, though, they're idiots. That is NOT "heavy". Not even close. I'd be thrilled if I got up to that weight.

Angela

Shite, I'd be thrilled if I could get *down* to that weight!

 

[Saracene]

The idea that she's "heavy" is of course utterly ridiculous.

But in the end a beauty pageant is all about the looks with certain expectations of how winners should look like. Hell yeah you're going to be jumped on when your appearance changes.

 

[MrsSpringsteen]

I saw her on tv and she's not "way too big" by any stretch of the imagination. They showed footage of her when she was in a bikini in the pageant and she looked very thin, so I think she can afford to gain some weight. Pageant or not, not a good message to send to any young girl. I'm sure she had probably deprived herself so much before getting into that bikini that she wanted to eat.

 

[MrsSpringsteen]

Domonique Ramirez, the 17-year-old Miss Antonio who was stripped of her title after being told to "lay off the tacos," has been given back her crown by a Texas courtroom.

The Associated Press reports that the jury deliberated for 11-and-a-half hours before delivering the decision, but Linda Woods of the Miss Bexar County Organization board maintained that she will have nothing to do with Ramirez:

"I'm sorry, there's no way I would represent her as talent. She's trouble," pageant director Woods said.

Woods testified during the weeklong trial that the size-2 teenager showed up to a bikini photo shoot overweight and made pictures "unusable."

But she told jurors it wasn't adding a few inches to her figure that cost the 5-foot-8, 129-pound college student her crown. Instead, she said Ramirez violated her contract by being chronically late for events or not showing up, not writing thank-you notes for gifts, and embarrassing the pageant board by turning down vocal coaching from an opera singer.

Woods said giving Ramirez the crown back was "an injustice for the city of San Antonio."

"It allows young kids to breach contracts and violate authority without any consequences. ... It sends the wrong message," she said.

After hearing the verdict, Domonique headed to the Our Lady of the Guadalupe church where she said, "I feel great. I left it up in God's hands, and that's why I felt I had to come here first."

She will now prepare for Miss Texas. There's no word on what will happen to Ashley Dixon, the Miss San Antonio runner-up who had the title for several weeks while Domonique was deposed.

 

[corianderstem]

Woods said giving Ramirez the crown back was "an injustice for the city of San Antonio."

Christ, what an asshole.

 

[PhilsFan]

With all the injustice going on in the world, I'm glad we're not overlooking the injustice of who is the teenage beauty pageant winner in San Antonio. This is a human rights issue, guys.

 

[MrsSpringsteen]

They're probably all pelting The Alamo with tacos

 

[Irvine511]

I think a better mantra would be:

Eat all the tacos you want, eat all the fried chips you want, drink whatever,
but get off the couch (or in front of your pc)....

and move!

Get some physical activity in your life.

maybe if you're michael phelps and you work out 5 hours a day, but most of us need to burn an extra 500 calories a day if we want to lose one pound a week, and we're not going to be able to burn off the calories from soda, fried chips, and tacos in the amount of time the average person has to exercise in any given day.

also: stop smoking.

 

[BoMac]

Apparently, God is a fan of beauty pageants.

 

[the iron horse]

maybe if you're michael phelps and you work out 5 hours a day, but most of us need to burn an extra 500 calories a day if we want to lose one pound a week, and we're not going to be able to burn off the calories from soda, fried chips, and tacos in the amount of time the average person has to exercise in any given day.

also: stop smoking.

Didn't I say something about moving? Physical activity?

I think you can burn the calories if you are moderate in all things.

 

[Irvine511]

Didn't I say something about moving? Physical activity?

I think you can burn the calories if you are moderate in all things.

often, what you think versus what is reality are two different things.

how much time in your average day do you have for physical activity? one hour? maybe two?

to burn the extra 3,000 calories eating fried chips and soda and tacos, you'll have to work out for a lot longer than that.

eat healthy foods as much as you can, enjoy "junk" foods in moderation.

stop smoking.

 

[BVS]

Didn't I say something about moving? Physical activity?

I think you can burn the calories if you are moderate in all things.

Which is it, do you want to moderate or "eat all the tacos you want, eat all the fried chips you want, drink whatever"?

You're constantly contradicting yourself, that or you don't understand the definition of 'moderation'.

 

[the iron horse]

Which is it, do you want to moderate or "eat all the tacos you want, eat all the fried chips you want, drink whatever"?

You're constantly contradicting yourself, that or you don't understand the definition of 'moderation'.

I'm not even going to try to explain myself anymore.

I just suggest we all just relax a bit

Enjoy life. Don't fear food.

 

[BVS]

No one's tense, everyone's enjoying life and no one is fearing food...

 

[the iron horse]

No one's tense, everyone's enjoying life and no one is fearing food...

"What a wonderful world it will be."

 

[BoMac]

Didn't I say something about moving? Physical activity?

I think you can burn the calories if you are moderate in all things.

As Irvine said so well, you have no clue about how our bodies work. It's basic biology.