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Old 11-03-2008, 07:24 PM   #1
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Third Party Will Loose in a Landslide

I will vote Libertarian Tuesday.
Some others will vote libertarian, the Green Party, or the Constitutional Party.

Our candidates will loose,
but it will be the American people who will be the real losers.

My opinion >>>

We willl be losers because the two major parties in power and the mainstream media have shut out the voices of the third parties. We have been led to believe in following leaders and big goverment, not in the individual freedom, responsibility and liberty.


*The only third party candidate ever allowed to participate in the debates was Ross Perot. He had the $$$.



"A government big enough to give you everything is a government big enough to take it all way." ~Barry Goldwater
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Old 11-03-2008, 07:33 PM   #2
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It's 'lose', not 'loose'...but yes, that's a safe prediction.

Parliamentary systems are generally easier for third parties to make headway in.
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Old 11-03-2008, 07:42 PM   #3
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It's 'lose', not 'loose'...but yes, that's a safe prediction.

Parliamentary systems are generally easier for third parties to make headway in.

Yolland,
Thanks for the correction on my spelling.
I couldn't find my dictionary.
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but it will be the American people who will be the real losers.


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We willl be losers because the two major parties in power and the mainstream media have shut out the voices of the third parties. We have been led to believe in following leaders and big goverment, not in the individual freedom, responsibility and liberty.
No one is shutting out third party voices, they are just getting drowned out, big difference. Yes it does take money to campaign and get your name out there

Many don't like the two party system, it sucks. But you first need a third party that has some kind of unity in order to get off the ground. The Republican party and Democratic party both have issues with platform unity, but they already have an established party, you can't start that way, you won't get anywhere. And you won't get taken very seriously by whining about media and the power that be, etc for being your downfall.

I've said it over and over in here that the libertarian party has no unity.

Personally I don't see a new viable third party anytime in the future unless one of the two major parties split, which is very likely in the next decade or so.
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Old 11-03-2008, 07:52 PM   #5
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I’m up for a loose party, but it is a weeknight.
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i find third parties hard to take seriously when i rarely, if ever, have see them on my ballot for anything other than the token presidential nomination.
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Old 11-03-2008, 08:06 PM   #7
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i find third parties hard to take seriously when i rarely, if ever, have see them on my ballot for anything other than the token presidential nomination.

Read your ballot
They are there

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I’m up for a loose party, but it is a weeknight.
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Old 11-03-2008, 08:23 PM   #9
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Splitting votes just keeps the unified party in power longer. It's pointless. It's better to be Ron Paul and try and convince people in the Republican party than vote for a rump party. Just ask the Democrats with Ralph Nader or Perot with the Republicans. Together we stand and divided we fall.
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The two-party system as it exists in America makes a degree of sense to me, even if I don't agree with it. As it appears from this distance, both the Democratic and Republican parties are 'big tent coalitions' as the cliche goes. Rather than parties in what I consider the parliamentary sense.

So for example, with the Republicans you have some libertarians, big business conservatives, small-c fiscal conservatives, the Christian Right, the neo-cons, etc etc etc.

In your case, The Iron Horse, what I think you should hope for is that a future, reformed Republican Party controlled by libertarian elements gains office. I think that is very unlikely to happen (note: not the Republican Party regaining, or retaining office per se).

Failing that, a really determined new party should spend thirty or forty years building up an unassailable base from the seemingly endless multitude of partisan offices which exist in America (the county sheriffs, the school board chairs, the town and city councils, then the state congresses...). I cannot see any other way it would occur in the US.
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I'm quite happy to have not voted for any of the third-party candidates this year. They're all crazy.
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Old 11-04-2008, 06:50 AM   #12
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Don't call them crazy, melon.

It's a bit like Otto in 'A Fish Called Wanda', isn't it.
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I think that third parties are valuable in general for being an outlet for different ideas, of course the current censorship situation in this country is the result of third parties I say string the bastards from trees and keep the election grounded in reality, or not.
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I'm quite happy to have not voted for any of the third-party candidates this year. They're all crazy.
We're not all crazy...



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The movie was masturbatory anti-Bush liberalism, I would have liked to have seen a straighter statist versus psychopathic anarchist bend to it.
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