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Old 05-28-2012, 03:40 PM   #106
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that is a local case, I have been reading quite a bit on.

The kid pled guilty, I think I heard him say his attorney thought he would get 3 years max or only probation. If you was found guilty he could have gotten 40 years. This was not a wrongful conviction. He chose to plead guilty. I think in this day and age without any dna, injuries and just a he said / she said case, a conviction would not be likely.

He ended up serving six years and being labeled a sexual offender. This is one case where FB did a good job for him and ruined her life, deservedly.
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Old 06-01-2012, 06:32 PM   #107
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Hi Jive,

Did you not see the people I mentioned in my post?

Ted Bundy - who tortured, raped and murdered over 30 women - did he really deserve to live? was he innocent and wrongfully put to death?

John Gacy - one of the worst serial killers who disguised his cruelty under a clown's outfit and killed over 30 innocent boys? was he also innocent?

John Couey - the monster who kidnapped and raped little Jessica Lunsford and then put her in plastic bags and buried her alive, causing her to slowly suffocate to death - a truly innocent soul, right?

Adolph Eichman - one of the main architects and executors of the "final solution". Millions of Jews were herded like cattle onto railway cars and transported to death camps where they were either gassed on arrival or worked to death, slowly dying from malnutrition, disease, beatings, and ghastly experiments - all orchestrated by Adolph Eichman and his cohorts.
A true piller of the community, right?

I repeat - I would have GLADLY pulled the plug on any one of these loathsome creatures.......

If you think that's fucked up.....well, so be it.

......and here's a hug for you too.......
Totally agree. Like yourself, I have a tendency to align my sympathies with the victims of crime rather than the perpretators. Yeah, I know. Crazy right wing extremist talk. But, hey, that's just us.

I would put a bullet in the likes of Marc Dutroux ( Marc Dutroux - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ) , dust off my hands afterwards -not gleefully, just as one does after fulfilling a task - and then sleep well at night in the conviction that I'd done a good day's work for humanity - no remorse, except where it should be shown, i.e. for his victims.

Friends of mine, who have children of their own, wouldn't be as nice and clinical about it as that.

Only on this forum is state sanctioned execution for irredeemable mass murderers and child killers viewed as far out crazy bigotted right wing stuff - in the real world, it's what most normal, moral people think, quite frankly.
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Old 06-01-2012, 07:30 PM   #108
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Only on this forum is state sanctioned execution for irredeemable mass murderers and child killers viewed as far out crazy bigotted right wing stuff - in the real world, it's what most normal, moral people think, quite frankly.
You have completely lost it. The bullshit is getting pretty thick in here...
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Old 06-01-2012, 07:38 PM   #109
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Pretty much all people I know can differentiate between gut feelings of revenge and a modern, humanist legal system perfectly well.
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You have completely lost it. The bullshit is getting pretty thick in here...
That's not an argument.
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Pretty much all people I know can differentiate between gut feelings of revenge and a modern, humanist legal system perfectly well.
This is precisely the point. A humanist perspective recognises that some crimes are so evil that society is entitled to vengeance.
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That's not an argument.
Look at what I quoted, there is no argument for that. There is not one poster in here that fits that extreme description you gave. Because of that, you've already failed. When you start with a strawman there really is no where to go except call it what it is, bullshit.
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Well he successfully resurrected this shit show without adding anything new. No plans tonight then, financeguy?
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Well he successfully resurrected this shit show without adding anything new. No plans tonight then, financeguy?
Nah. Will probably jerk off later. No KKK meatings tonight, so
maybe I'll read some stories about missing white girls.

Ooops, shouldn't have said that, BVS will probably use it an evidence against me at a later date!!!

How about yourself, you still in the institution? Good to hear they restored your inets.
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Old 06-01-2012, 08:06 PM   #115
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Nah. Will probably jerk off later. No KKK meatings tonight, so
maybe I'll read some stories about missing white girls.
Interesting you kept these all in the same paragraph
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Interesting you kept these all in the same paragraph
Jeez, don't mind me. Don't you have a McDonald's shift to attend or something? I know, it's tough. They don't let you sweep the floor until you've cleaned the latrines first. But, think of it, one day, you can be as rich and successful as you really want to be, deep down in your inmost soul. One day, they might let ya serve the customers.
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Unclever and unfunny, but I assume you're drunk, so I'll give you some slack. Anyway, enjoy your night alone
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Unclever and unfunny, but I assume you're drunk, so I'll give you some slack. Anyway, enjoy your night alone
Girlfriend's away in Dubai, so it's fun to debate politics with thickos.

Not challenging, admittedly, just a few cheap laughs.
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This is precisely the point. A humanist perspective recognises that some crimes are so evil that society is entitled to vengeance.
But if you say vengeance than you accept the premise of the argument against capital punishment. A civil society seeks justice, not vengeance.
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But if you say vengeance than you accept the premise of the argument against capital punishment. A civil society seeks justice, not vengeance.
Yes. Point taken. But I don't mind that. My argument accepts and acknowledges that there are cases where collective society demands vengeance, and in certain cases, it's more moral for the state to fulfil that role that for it not to do so - only in extreme cases, granted.
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