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Old 05-18-2012, 01:49 AM   #16
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exactly. are there even any other first-world countries that still use the death penalty?
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Japan, very rarely.
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Old 05-18-2012, 04:48 AM   #18
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Capital punishment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Even Iraq executes less people than us. And they're supposed to be an oppressive muslim nation according to certain news stations.
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Old 05-18-2012, 08:01 AM   #19
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Iraq is picking up: Iraq: 65 Executions in First 40 Days of 2012 | Human Rights Watch
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2012 is a busy year for killing people.
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exactly. are there even any other first-world countries that still use the death penalty?
Singapore does, and to an absurd degree.
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Singapore is a dictatorial regime with way too much money. If you compare democratic societies, there's only the US (though not all states) and Japan that are still killing their people "for justice".
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on that list of 23 countries that execute,

U S is towards the bottom, 17 of 23, and that is with Singapore and Vietnam not reporting, my guess that they both execute more per capita, than the U S.
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But is this a contest now? "Hey, this country executes more than us!"
This list reads like the "axis of evil". Don't know if countries like the US, Japan or even Belarus really want to be on that.
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Old 05-18-2012, 08:57 PM   #25
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The death penalty is the worst thing in American politics and justice. That is not an opinion, that is a fact.
Ok Journalism major, if that is indeed a fact rather than an opinion you'll kindly provide some quantitative data to support the fact that the death penalty is "worse" in American politics and justice than say:

The Citizens United decision and the corruption of money on U.S. politics
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Incivility and partisanship in U.S. politics
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The Bush tax cuts and income inequality
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The injustice of this generation passing on a $16 trillion debt to the next generation
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Fighting a War of Drugs rather than Wall St fraud.

You only have to pick one.

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Ok Journalism major, if that is indeed a fact rather than an opinion you'll kindly provide some quantitative data to support the fact that the death penalty is "worse" in American politics and justice than say:

The Citizens United decision and the corruption of money on U.S. politics
or
Incivility and partisanship in U.S. politics
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The Bush tax cuts and income inequality
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The injustice of this generation passing on a $16 trillion debt to the next generation
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Fighting a War of Drugs rather than Wall St fraud.

You only have to pick one.

Go.
Really? really? holy shit.
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All of those things are indeed bad, but the government-sanctioned killing of people who may not be guilty of the crimes they're accused of based on some weird notion of "justice" is pretty damn horrific.
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Ok Journalism major, if that is indeed a fact rather than an opinion you'll kindly provide some quantitative data to support the fact that the death penalty is "worse" in American politics and justice than say:

The Citizens United decision and the corruption of money on U.S. politics
or
Incivility and partisanship in U.S. politics
or
The Bush tax cuts and income inequality
or
The injustice of this generation passing on a $16 trillion debt to the next generation
or
Fighting a War of Drugs rather than Wall St fraud.

You only have to pick one.

Go.
The government is using more money and resources solely for the purpose of being bloodthirsty and vindictive. My tax dollars are going towards bloodlust.

Of cases that have reached finality, about one in nine resulted in exoneration. Add to that the number of innocents executed (basically an unknown because cases like this are almost never investigated after the inmate is executed), and you are approaching close to 15 percent on death row being innocent.

Very simply, the government killing people it is not sure are even guilty is the worst thing this country does. I don't have to back off my stances on Wall Street fraud, debt or income inequality to say this. Those are issues with terrible moral consequences, but they are at least somewhat reasonably complicated. This issue is not.

In my state, we have executed as many death row inmates as we have exonerated.
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Ok Journalism major, if that is indeed a fact rather than an opinion you'll kindly provide some quantitative data to support the fact that the death penalty is "worse" in American politics and justice than say:

The Citizens United decision and the corruption of money on U.S. politics
or
Incivility and partisanship in U.S. politics
or
The Bush tax cuts and income inequality
or
The injustice of this generation passing on a $16 trillion debt to the next generation
or
Fighting a War of Drugs rather than Wall St fraud.

You only have to pick one.

Go.
All the stuff wrong with our government and that's what you come up with?
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Really? really? holy shit.
Holy Fucking Shit. You're back.
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