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Old 02-08-2009, 04:37 PM   #16
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if the war on terror is a hoax, then charles manson should be remembered as a crusader.
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Old 02-08-2009, 05:11 PM   #17
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Fantastic logic...
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Old 02-08-2009, 07:07 PM   #18
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if the war on terror is a hoax, then charles manson should be remembered as a crusader.
Not seeing the connection here....Charles Manson wanted to start a race war, surely he has more in common with the Aryan Nations types already referred to? The hippy version of Aryan Nations, perhaps.
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Old 02-09-2009, 09:47 AM   #19
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Try explaining to this man's family that the War on Terror is a hoax..


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The War On Terror ≠ Terrorism
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Old 02-09-2009, 01:40 PM   #21
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is this a discussion of semantics?

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No, it's a very important distinction. Calling the War on Terror a hoax does not mean you don't believe terrorism is real. As your previous post implied.
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My take on the article is.....how much Americans were actually "brainwashed" into a state of high anxiety and unrelenting fear.

it wasn't brainwashing at all. or, maybe it was brainwashing, but i view much of the American population as innocent victims of the Bush administration and large swaths of the Republican Party.

the US in 2002 was rightly terrified, and our leaders at the time murderously cynically utilized this for their own goals. very powerful men used fear to frighten a populace into acquiescing -- for a short while -- to their reactionary agenda which included, but was not limited to, a remaking of the Middle East, a reduction of civil liberties, and a wild expansion of the powers of the executive.

by 2004, almost half of us had caught on and did our best to boot the criminals from office. by 2006, we had mostly succeeded. and now, in 2009, we're all left to pick up the pieces.
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what is this comparing to what American soldiers do to Arab prisoners. Arabs treated this man by miles better than Americans do.
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what is this comparing to what American soldiers do to Arab prisoners. .
we put panties on their heads.
they decapitate us.

is that the same thing to you?

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it wasn't brainwashing at all. or, maybe it was brainwashing, but i view much of the American population as innocent victims of the Bush administration and large swaths of the Republican Party.

the US in 2002 was rightly terrified, and our leaders at the time murderously cynically utilized this for their own goals. very powerful men used fear to frighten a populace into acquiescing -- for a short while -- to their reactionary agenda which included, but was not limited to, a remaking of the Middle East, a reduction of civil liberties, and a wild expansion of the powers of the executive.

by 2004, almost half of us had caught on and did our best to boot the criminals from office. by 2006, we had mostly succeeded. and now, in 2009, we're all left to pick up the pieces.
Well said, Irvine!
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I've been saying for years now that the war on terror was a hoax. Bush started it to cover up the problems in his own country. There was also no room for human rights. Now the whole world is in a financial crisis, because of the debts the US made. We, in the Netherlands also have to pay for it, as usual. Thank you mr. Bush! And a big thank you to the idiots who have always voted republican.
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I've been saying for years now that the war on terror was a hoax. Bush started it to cover up the problems in his own country. There was also no room for human rights. Now the whole world is in a financial crisis, because of the debts the US made. We, in the Netherlands also have to pay for it, as usual. Thank you mr. Bush! And a big thank you to the idiots who have always voted republican.
I don't understand. How is the Netherlands paying for America's economical problems?
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2002: 8 completed incidents; 1 prevented incident; 2 deaths

--7 arson attacks either by ELF alone, or by ELF & ALF acting jointly



2003: 6 completed incidents; 5 prevented incidents; 0 deaths

--3 ELF arson attacks
--3 ALF arson attacks


2004: 5 completed incidents; 5 prevented incidents; 0 deaths

--3 ELF arson attacks
--1 ALF arson attack


2005: 5 completed incidents; 3 prevented incidents; 0 deaths

--3 ELF arson attacks
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I knew that little bastard from Melmac was up to no good. And I have never trusted Sindarns, especially if they try to pass themselves off as Silvan.




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