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Old 04-14-2011, 08:03 PM   #61
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nothing says opinion like calling the other side liars.
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Old 04-14-2011, 09:12 PM   #62
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Another opinion:
By a 19 year old political science student. Clearly an expert in the field and someone whose opinion carries a lot of weight in the discussion.
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Old 04-15-2011, 09:42 AM   #64
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I think this is more interesting:

Keynote | Power Shift 2011

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Join us after dinner for a concert, fashion show, and keynote speakers.

Lisa P. Jackson, Environmental Protection Agency Administrator

Administrator Lisa P. Jackson leads EPA’s efforts to protect the health and environment for all Americans. She and a staff of more than 17,000 professionals are working across the nation to usher in a green economy, address health threats from toxins and pollution, and renew public trust in EPA’s work.

As Administrator, Jackson has pledged to focus on core issues of protecting air and water quality, preventing exposure to toxic contamination in our communities, and reducing greenhouse gases. She has promised that all of EPA’s efforts will follow the best science, adhere to the rule of law, and be implemented with unparalleled transparency.

Jackson is the first African-American to serve as EPA Administrator. She has made it a priority to focus on vulnerable groups including children, the elderly, and low-income communities that are particularly susceptible to environmental and health threats. In addressing these and other issues, she has promised all stakeholders a place at the decision-making table.

Before becoming EPA’s Administrator, Jackson served as Chief of Staff to New Jersey Governor Jon S. Corzine and Commissioner of the state’s Department of Environmental Protection (DEP). Prior to joining DEP, she worked for 16 years as an employee of the U.S. EPA.
EPA Boss to Speak at Youth Climate Conference With Van Jones and International Socialists | NewsBusters.org

About Energy Action Coalition | Power Shift 2011

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Energy Action Coalition is a coalition of 50 youth-led environmental and social justice groups working together to build the youth clean energy and climate movement.

Working with hundreds of campus and youth groups, dozens of youth networks, and hundreds of thousands of young people, Energy Action Coalition and its partners have united a burgeoning movement behind winning local victories and coordinating on state, regional, and national levels in the United States and Canada. [...]

Energy Action Coalition is committed to building a diverse and inclusive movement to solve the climate crisis and address environmental and economic injustice.
One of the workshops:

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From the BP Oil Spill to the Japanese Nuclear Crisis: Why Capitalism is Killing the Planet

The past year alone has highlighted the massive toll taken on our planet by the coal, oil, and nuclear energy industries. Yet President Obama continues to support these three industries, which have produced not only ecological catastrophe but also widespread human suffering. This panel will discuss why this is the case, how it is linked to a system of global capitalism that puts profit before the needs of human beings and the planet, and how we can move beyond the capitalist ecological crisis.

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Chris Williams, International Socialist Organization
Heather Kangas, International Socialist Organization
Amanda Duzak, International Socialist Organization
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The International Socialist Organization (ISO) is committed to building an organization that participates in the struggles for justice and liberation today--and, ultimately, for a future socialist society. [...]

A world free of exploitation--socialism--is not only possible but worth fighting for. The ISO stands in the tradition of revolutionary socialists Karl Marx, V.I. Lenin and Leon Trotsky in the belief that workers themselves--the vast majority of the population--are the only force that can lead the fight to win a socialist society. Socialism can't be brought about from above, but has to be won by workers themselves. [...]

We see our task as building an independent socialist organization with members organizing in our workplaces, our schools and our neighborhoods to bring socialist ideas to the struggles we are involved in today, and the vision of a socialist world in the future.
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The U.S Chamber of Commerce claims to represent small businesses across America but answers to the biggest, dirtiest corporations in the country. This panel will expose the U.S Chamber’s true colors as obstructionists to climate progress and its underhanded tactics for maintaining its crumbling reputation. Panelists will also discuss how we can win against the Chamber by mobilizing our communities and local businesses to band together for green jobs and climate solutions. Join us for a panel featuring Brad Johnson from the Center for American Progress, Phil Aroneanu from 350.org, Bonnie Hemphill of Climate Solutions, and representatives from the labor and sustainable business community.
Everyone is worried about Koch but not these guys.
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Old 04-15-2011, 10:46 AM   #65
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Is this the proof you were looking for? The link you've been longing for for so long?

Science is socialist!


Seriously, the author made some big stretches in their article. They would have done much better if they just left out the part about the judges at a Koch led conference because now he just looks stupid trying to make a comparison. The two are not similiar at all.
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Old 04-15-2011, 06:12 PM   #66
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How about the U.N.?
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Old 04-15-2011, 06:50 PM   #67
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What about them? Were they a part of the conference? I didn't see...
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Old 04-15-2011, 10:52 PM   #68
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What about them? Were they a part of the conference? I didn't see...
Well no, more obviously they are the prime supporters of the IPCC reports and stand to benefit from cap and trade transfers and binding agreements to make a world government. Remember those videos of Marxists in Copenhagen? Don't these usual suspects seem enthusiastic about this topic?
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Well no, more obviously they are the prime supporters of the IPCC reports and stand to benefit from cap and trade transfers and binding agreements to make a world government. Remember those videos of Marxists in Copenhagen? Don't these usual suspects seem enthusiastic about this topic?
You post a "source" and then you can't even stay on topic.

You are part of the reason why the right comes off as anti intellectualism.
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Well no, more obviously they are the prime supporters of the IPCC reports and stand to benefit from cap and trade transfers and binding agreements to make a world government. Remember those videos of Marxists in Copenhagen? Don't these usual suspects seem enthusiastic about this topic?
You reading from Glenn's chalkboards again, purp?

Isn't there some kind of worldwise towelhead uprising you should be preparing for, instead, then? I'd think climate change (or the lack of) would be a minor issue compared to the Muslim threat
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The comparison to the Koch Brothers is absurd.
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Old 04-16-2011, 01:32 PM   #73
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You post a "source" and then you can't even stay on topic.

You are part of the reason why the right comes off as anti intellectualism.
There are political people that want to benefit financially from artificially raising energy costs. That's on topic and related to my post. It's not just science. One doesn't have to be an "intellectual" to understand that. Since intellectuals want to scare up some money by making people feel guilty and afraid of a trace gas that does little warming it seems intellectuals shouldn't be given carte blanche to plan the energy economy in some people's opinion.
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You really aren't helping your cause... I'm not sure if you even read your own "source".

Is climate change a socialist scam or money making scam, you can't seem to make up your mind.

Is there anyone on the right that understands the situation?! Will you please come forward?
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You really aren't helping your cause... I'm not sure if you even read your own "source".

Is climate change a socialist scam or money making scam, you can't seem to make up your mind.

Is there anyone on the right that understands the situation?! Will you please come forward?

I will.

The sun will rise tomorrow and the birds will sing praises.

The earth is in good hands.

Be happy
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