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Old 06-23-2013, 08:55 PM   #436
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President Obama is Taking Action on Climate Change - Whitehouse.gov

Obama will deliver a speech on Tuesday outlining his plan to address climate change, in light of inaction in Congress. According to the New Yorik Times, this will likely revolve around limits on existing and new coal plants, more stringent energy efficiency standards, and increased investment in renewable energy.

I'll be tuning in.
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Old 06-23-2013, 08:56 PM   #437
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Nice to know that he's at least thinking about the issue.
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There's only so much he can do using executive powers. Putting a price on carbon outright - using cap-and-trade or a carbon tax - would require congressional approval. It's been tried in the past, and it failed to pass.

In other climate news, China is rolling out cap-and-trade systems in select cities and provinces, although there are significant hurdles to overcome if it is to become truly effective.
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The concept of coal burning energy plants seems so foreign to me. Growing up, I was just so used to referring to hydro stations that it never occurred to me that there might be other ways of producing electricity until sometime in my early teens. I even sometimes still refer to the 'hydro' being out during a power outage. The idea of continually burning coal to provide so much energy seems so dirty
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The concept of coal burning energy plants seems so foreign to me. Growing up, I was just so used to referring to hydro stations that it never occurred to me that there might be other ways of producing electricity until sometime in my early teens. I even sometimes still refer to the 'hydro' being out during a power outage. The idea of continually burning coal to provide so much energy seems so dirty
It's a horrible way to create electricity.

I do feel bad for the people whose livelihood depends on the stuff, though. Even when coal was more in demand, West Virginia was the heart of the poorest part of the United States. With regulations and (especially) cheap natural gas, the place has been torn asunder.

But coal is still a horrible way to create electricity.
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It's a shame there so much mostly irrational fear of nuclear
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Old 06-24-2013, 07:07 AM   #442
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It's a shame there so much mostly irrational fear of nuclear
Agreed. That's the best hope that we have in many ways.
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Man, I really need a proof reader.
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If Florida submerges into the ocean, will America lose its manhood?
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Old 06-25-2013, 07:19 PM   #445
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A new book that takes the opposite point of view:

In Global Warming We Trust
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Would you care to inform us what you learned from that book?
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A new book that takes the opposite point of view:

In Global Warming We Trust
Do you have to bury your head in the sand to read it or did the author convey that point-of-view well enough that you the reader don't have to?
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A new book that takes the opposite point of view:

In Global Warming We Trust
What exactly is his view? Can you tell me anything about the author? I'm interested in picking it up but would like your input.
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Old 06-25-2013, 07:58 PM   #449
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I have sneaking suspicion that might be one of those reference-a-book-instead-of-understanding-myself or haven't-read-it-yet style book recos
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In Global Warming We Trust
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