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Old 01-06-2012, 01:50 AM   #301
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My interpertation.

This "world system" (governments and social orders) is indeed
a world gone wrong.

The earth is fine and doing well.
Spoken by someone with fingers in ears many miles from the coast at sea level.

You should chill out with more Dutch hydro engineers, Iron, might expand your worldview a few cubic liters.
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Old 01-07-2012, 10:09 PM   #302
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Spoken by someone with fingers in ears many miles from the coast at sea level.

You should chill out with more Dutch hydro engineers, Iron, might expand your worldview a few cubic liters.


I can't.

I'm busy cutting (with a gas powered chainsaw) firewood for the winter.
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use axes. more rugged and american.
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Old 01-13-2012, 08:23 PM   #304
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use axes. more rugged and american.



If I had eight hours to chop down a tree, I'd spend six hours sharpening my axe.

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"If I had eight hours to chop down a tree, I'd spend seven hours drinking."

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Old 01-16-2012, 09:19 PM   #306
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That way you would only work one hour, one the effects of working at a young age perhaps?
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Old 01-16-2012, 11:05 PM   #307
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Personally, I wouldn't attempt such a venture as chopping down a tree without large quantities of tobacco, alcohol, and indeed cheese sandwiches with which to fortify myself beforehand.
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Old 01-20-2012, 09:49 PM   #308
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Personally, I wouldn't attempt such a venture as chopping down a tree without large quantities of tobacco, alcohol, and indeed cheese sandwiches with which to fortify myself beforehand.

You might be a country boy yet financeguy

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Old 05-05-2012, 05:37 PM   #310
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That appears on an electronic billboard I pass by on my way home from work. Apparently they've decided to pull it, as it was just done for "research" purposes.

Way to elevate the discussion, Heartland!
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I agree. They shouldn't stoop to the level of the warmists.
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I assume you have examples of the "warmists" comparing climate change skeptics to mass murderers?
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I assume you have examples of the "warmists" comparing climate change skeptics to mass murderers?
Too easy. I can tell you avoid the climate depot website which posts copious amounts of vitriol created by warmists. Then there's the basic assumption that skeptics are destroying the world. What's more of a mass killing when including the entire planet? Weren't there documentaries and movies that depicted floods and natural disasters from a 6 degree increase in temperatures? Aren't children scared of mass extinctions of the polar bears? There were even attempts to say that recent earthquakes were the result of melted ice caps. If anything global warming campaigners have made the general public feel like they are terrorizers of the planet. We are supposed to drown the Maldives as well..

I've already posted that video that jokes about blowing up skeptics which is closer to the uni bomber's actual point of view. Then you have James Hansen that wants all coal plants to be shutdown now. Doing that would have the economic effect of the great leap forward by Mao. So there is some justification for the billboard even though I think science works better in the long run. Also pointing out the failure of cap and trade in Europe to slow CO2 increases would help also. To really make a dent in CO2 production you really need to destroy the economy. Some skeptics like the idea of fighting fire with fire but the best offense is the truth. I'm glad Ross McKitrick asked the billboard to be taken down. Propaganda like that just makes warmers have fodder for complaining.

I think Svensmark does plenty of damage to the AGW theory without name calling. Science is all that's needed. BTW I'm glad I'm called a skeptic by you instead of a denier which has ridiculous connotations to the holocaust. I'm in the camp that CO2 causes minor warming and natural factors need to be studied more than they are now to develop better predictions. The recent Met office prediction of a dry spell in England is a perfect example on how near term predictions fail badly.
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Too easy. I can tell you avoid the climate depot website which posts copious amounts of vitriol created by warmists.
So you're saying that Climate Depot doesn't engage in the same kind of vitriolic tactics?
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So you're saying that Climate Depot doesn't engage in the same kind of vitriolic tactics?
The UN started with the tactics and Climate Depot exposes their tactics (which is not hard to do) and when extremist opinions appear they show links and emails of the propagandists so the general public can vent their anger. Since skeptical scientists undergo career damage (shown in the climate gate emails) there is an opportunity to expose the bullying. The only thing I don't like is that some people will use the emails for death threats but then again this has already happened to skeptical scientists so it's fun to see warmists cry foul when they are the past masters. The best thing about the site is when skeptical science is published it appears there so it doesn't get ignored.

An example is one scientist recently voiced her opinion that skeptics should be psychologically treated:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/04/0...ess-statement/

Naturally once she was exposed the statements were removed. Right now a study is looking at economic depression as a solution to bring down atmospheric levels of CO2 down so now he's being exposed:

http://hauntingthelibrary.wordpress....lobal-warming/

There is so much material to go through the website is rarely stale.
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