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The “Second American Revolution” Has Begun

KINGSTON, NY, 12 August 2009 — The natives are restless. The third shot of the “Second American Revolution” has been fired. History is being made. But just as with the first two shots, the third shot is not being heard.

America is seething. Not since the Civil War has anything like this happened. But the protests are either being intentionally downplayed or ignorantly misinterpreted.

The first shot was fired on April 15, 2009. Over 700 anti-tax rallies and “Tea Parties” erupted nationwide. Rather than acknowledge their significance, the general media either ignored or ridiculed both protests and protestors, playing on “tea bagging” for its sexual innuendo.

Initially President Obama said he was unaware of the tea parties. The White House later warned they could “mutate” into something “unhealthy.”

Shot #2 was fired on the Fourth of July, when throngs of citizens across the nation gathered to again protest “taxation without representation.” And as before, the demonstrations were branded right-wing mischief and dismissed.

The third volley, fired in early August, was aimed point blank at Senators and House members pitching President Obama’s health care reform package to constituents. In fiery town hall meetings, enraged citizens shouted down their elected representatives. It took a strong police presence and/or burly bodyguards to preserve a safe physical space between the politicians and irate townspeople.

The White House and the media have labeled protestors “conservative fringe elements,” or as players in staged events organized by Republican operatives that have been egged on by Fox news and right-wing radio show hosts.

In regard to this latest wave of outbursts, health industry interests opposed to any reform are also being blamed for inciting the public. But organized or spontaneous is not the issue. While most protestors exhibit little grasp of the complex 1000 page health care reform document (that nary a legislator has read either), their emotion is clearly real and un-staged.

Rightly or wrongly, the legislation is regarded as yet another straw on the already overloaded camel’s back. A series of gigantic, unpopular government-imposed (but taxpayer-financed) bailouts, buyouts, rescue and stimulus packages have been stuffed down the gullet of Americans. With no public platform to voice their opposition, options for citizens have been limited to fruitless petitions, e-mails and phone calls to Congress … all fielded by anonymous staff underlings.

Now, with Congress in recess and elected representatives less than a stone’s throw away, the public is exploding. The devil is not in the details of the heath care reform, the devil is the government mandating health care. Regardless of how the plan is pitched or what is being promised, to the public the legislation is yet another instance of big government taking another piece out of their lives and making them pay for it; again telling them what they can or cannot do.

Though in its early stages, the “Second American Revolution” is underway. Yet, what we forecast will become the most profound political trend of the century – the trend that will change the world – is still invisible to the same experts, authorities and pundits who didn’t see the financial crisis coming until the bottom fell out of the economy.

Trend Forecast: Conditions will continue to deteriorate. The global economy is terminally ill. The recession is in a brief remission, not the early stages of recovery. Cheap money, easy credit
and unrestrained borrowing brought on an economic crisis that cannot be cured by monetary and fiscal policies that promote more cheap money, easy credit and unrestrained borrowing.

Nevertheless, Washington will continue to intervene, tax and exert control. Protests will escalate and riots will follow.

Fourth Shot of the “Second American Revolution”: While there are many wild cards that could light the fuse, The Trends Research Institute forecasts that if the threat of government-forced Swine Flu vaccinations is realized, it will be the fourth shot. Tens of millions will fight for their right to remain free and unvaccinated.

Publisher’s Note: The power of the Internet and new technologies is inexorably fermenting the “Second American Revolution.” However widespread and emotionally charged, had the tax rallies, tea parties and healthcare reform protests occurred in years past, they might have been covered by the local media, but might not have made national headline news and thus would have died stillborn.

Now, with the ubiquitous camera-equipped cell phone, universal access to YouTube, and millions of twitters and tweets, the uprisings cannot be ignored, contained, managed, spun or edited down. The revolutionary fervor will prove contagious.

Can anything stop it?

Trend Forecast: Before the momentum of the “Second American Revolution” becomes unstoppable, it could be derailed through some false flag event designed to deceive the public, or a genuine event or crisis capable of rallying the entire nation behind the President. In a worst-case scenario, according to Trends Research Institute Director, Gerald Celente, “Given the pattern of governments to parlay egregious failures into mega-failures, the classic trend they follow, when all else fails, is to take their nation to war."

A false flag attempt, a genuine crisis, or a declaration of war, may slow the momentum of the “Second American Revolution,” but nothing will stop it.
 
If there is a revolution going on, I am not surprised. The right and the left have been at each other's throats for decades, and it appears to be bubbling over.

America is completely divided on just about everything. The way I see it, no one can agree on what direction the U.S. needs to go. Should we go left? Should we go right? No one can agree.

Remember when I posted a thread about the possibility of America breaking up into separate nations? I could see that happening with all the mess that is going on now. Call me cynical, but I do see this mess getting worse and worse. God forbid it gets violent, even if a small minority does it.
 
**sigh**

The First American Revolution was led by thinking men who appealed to reason.

This so-called second one is characterized by ignorance and appeals to emotion. God help us if the fool who wrote this article is actually right.
 
hopefully it doesn't come down to this, but really seems like a select few loudmouths are really trying to influence the less educated in this country.

Not that the left hasn't played down, but ever since GWB it really seems as though the right has played this tactic perfectly.

They make it seem like it's WRONG to have a education. To want to know the truth and the facts, even if it means your initial opinion is incorrect.
 
This so-called second one is characterized by ignorance and appeals to emotion.



hopefully it doesn't come down to this, but really seems like a select few loudmouths are really trying to influence the less educated in this country.

Not that the left hasn't played down, but ever since GWB it really seems as though the right has played this tactic perfectly.

They make it seem like it's WRONG to have a education. To want to know the truth and the facts, even if it means your initial opinion is incorrect.

Either group could say that about each other.

I know people who are leftists, and others who are right-wing - who happened to be well educated. Both claim the other group is not educated enough, is appealing to emotion rather than reason, and is being denied the facts by whoever is in charge (ie, the media, college professors, the past and present administrations).

For some reason, America split into two and that rift is getting wider and wider, while the claws are getting longer. While I certainly hope there won't be any violence from either side, I wouldn't be surprised if a few go that far. There are wackos on both sides of the spectrum.

Anyway, judging from the emotional reactions I have been seeing from people on both the left and the right, I don't see America healing anytime soon. Because no one wants to live with the opposing beliefs.
 
I wasn't aware of a second revolution but -- when in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands ...
 
Of course Celente is an opportunist, forecasting trends is his livelihood. His forecasts are also right most of the time. There's nothing in that article that seems unrealistic, foolish or far-fetched to me.
 
Republicans were never good at losing elections. Does anyone remember the "Impeach Clinton" bumper stickers that went out immediately after his inauguration in 1993? It looks like they'd be happy to dissolve the U.S. entirely to get their way this time.
 
This article is ridiculous. Another product right wing extremists selling their mantra of fear and hate. Unfortunately the media love drama and these voices are getting all the attention right now, but I want to believe that the majority of us can be civil when we disagree and that's not happening lately.

The revolution happened when we elected Obama as our president. In fact it happens every time we have an election, except maybe in 2000 when it was stolen. :wink:

Never before have so many grassroots volunteers been mobilized in the most highly organized, beautifully executed campaingn in US history that I am very proud to say I was a part of. That was the revolution for change. Ultra extremists and some main stream conservatives just can't swallow that they lost so they are running in outrage and trying to find anything to scream about because they can't believe a black family is in the White House. Yes, that's what it boils down to for most of these people.

Otherwise, where's your alternate solution to the mess W made while in office? They don't even have one or a clear message or alternate plan to offer up... except to disrupt, road block and instill fear in those who are ignorant enough to believe it. I just pray that the worst of the worst in these hate groups are not plotting to do something unthinkable, but we all know that's not true. They are and I pray for President O's safety every night, you should too!

Sorry if this has been posted previously....but per the Southern Poverty Law Center ( one of the best things about America, founded by the great Morris Dees) says that the number of death threats the President has received has gone up since the election like never before in history. Hate groups are on the rise....


SPLC’s Intelligence Report: Hate Group Numbers Rise Again | Hatewatch | Southern Poverty Law Center

Lord help us. :pray:
 
This article is ridiculous. Another product right wing extremists selling their mantra of fear and hate.

I disagree with a few points in the article. Hell, the author could be completely wrong. But it's far, far from extreme.


Ultra extremists and some main stream conservatives just can't swallow that they lost so they are running in outrage and trying to find anything to scream about because they can't believe a black family is in the White House. Yes, that's what it boils down to for most of these people.

These type of comments....

are closer to extreme.
 
Ultra extremists and some main stream conservatives just can't swallow that they lost so they are running in outrage and trying to find anything to scream about because they can't believe a black family is in the White House. Yes, that's what it boils down to for most of these people.

For some yes, but for others, they are simply not happy with the changes that are going on, particularly the health care bill.

I honestly believe making this right vs left issue entirely about race to be quite dangerous. Because there would never be a solution to that. There would always be fear and distrust between all ethnic and racial groups, no matter what IMO.
 
I completely agree that to say "that's what it boils down to for MOST of these people" is pretty extreme.

BUT, I do think that that's what it boils down to for more of these folks than we would like to admit.

Here's the way I see it. There would be a far smaller turnout to the Tea Parties, if Obama was white, and there wouldn't have even been tea parties if McCain had implemented the same exact bailout/stimulous.
 
Ultra extremists and some main stream conservatives just can't swallow that they lost so they are running in outrage and trying to find anything to scream about because they can't believe a black family is in the White House. Yes, that's what it boils down to for most of these people.
Please.
Otherwise, where's your alternate solution to the mess W made while in office?
Hey, speaking for the "ultra extremists," we were hardly onboard with W's bailouts, Medicare part D and the general escalation in federal spending. Our solution is a reversal of that trend, not an acceleration.
I just pray that the worst of the worst in these hate groups are not plotting to do something unthinkable, but we all know that's not true. They are and I pray for President O's safety every night, you should too!

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Course they haven't started making movies about assassinating President Obama yet have they?
Sorry if this has been posted previously....but per the Southern Poverty Law Center ( one of the best things about America, founded by the great Morris Dees) says that the number of death threats the President has received has gone up since the election like never before in history. Hate groups are on the rise....

The great Morris Dees? The guy is a huckster.
He and the SPLC have been taken apart by those not-so-conservative magazines Harper's (nov 2000)
The Church of Morris Dees - November, 2000 - Harper's Magazine
and The Nation (april 2009) Alexander Cockburn: King of the Hate Business

As a civil rights organization, they're great fund-raisers.
 
hopefully it doesn't come down to this, but really seems like a select few loudmouths are really trying to influence the less educated in this country.

Not that the left hasn't played down, but ever since GWB it really seems as though the right has played this tactic perfectly.

They make it seem like it's WRONG to have a education. To want to know the truth and the facts, even if it means your initial opinion is incorrect.



the real problem is that the GOP has no leaders. the party is shattered.

the new leaders aren't elected officials but Rush, Hannity, Beck, and Coulter.

it's an industry.
 
Please.
Hey, speaking for the "ultra extremists," we were hardly onboard with W's bailouts, Medicare part D and the general escalation in federal spending. Our solution is a reversal of that trend, not an acceleration.
Yet you didn't organize or do a thing, speaks volumes.


Course they haven't started making movies about assassinating President Obama yet have they?
You all love that example. A movie that all of us leftists got together and make yet not one of went to go see it. :lol:

Quit letting Hannity make your points for you.
 
The continuing right vs left slugfest in here pretty much demonstrates Celente's point is lost in the noise.

I don't think FYM represent's the normal left vs right.

BUT that being said maybe in regard's to Celente's point you are correct.

I think the left is almost fairly represented in here. We have a few extreme left(although they may not post all that much), fair amount of middle road left, and some that are closer to the moderate line but with more left leanings.

But I don't think the right is that fairly represented. You have one or two that are closer to the moderate line but with more right leanings, you have a few middle road right( but every once in awhile they have a belief that doesn't coincide with the American definiton of right), but then I think we have a handful of very vocal far right(well at least they are now, but they will tow the line of the party if there's a moderate there). And then we have those that can't make up their mind if they are conservatives or neo-cons.

I think the "slug fest" happening in America today is the left vs the vocal yet pretty small yet organized far right. So for once FYM is sorta representative of what's going on in the outside world.
 
It's a fucking mess simply because no one talks about the issues. Every single mention of socialism is absurd and distracts. Every mention of race is absurd and distracts. If we could step back and look at the issues, this would be a much, much different story. But everyone's in complete fucking hysterics because of the economy, so every reaction is exaggerated and based on emotion, instead of thought-out and based on reality.

To the left: you've allowed people to completely distract from the actual issues at hand. By losing control of this, you're being extremely counter-productive.

To the right: you've allowed extremists like Glenn Beck to convince people that this issue is socialism vs. democracy, which is pure propaganda and fear tactics and is not only counter-productive, but is evil.
 
It's a fucking mess simply because no one talks about the issues. Every single mention of socialism is absurd and distracts. Every mention of race is absurd and distracts. If we could step back and look at the issues, this would be a much, much different story. But everyone's in complete fucking hysterics because of the economy, so every reaction is exaggerated and based on emotion, instead of thought-out and based on reality.

Well said.

The general discontent with and mistrust of government right now is the culmination of fuck ups by both parties over the current and previous few administrations and it is narrow-minded to think it is limited to far right sore losers or other fringe elements.
 
I honestly believe making this right vs left issue entirely about race to be quite dangerous.


I don't know that's it's dangerous, but I do agree that the extent that opposition to Obama is race-based is hard to pin down. I think it's a waste of time and a poor argument to insist that the opposition to Obama is mainly about race, even if there is some truth to it.

I maintain though that the way the Right has motivated opposition to health care reform is irresponsible. I have no problem with opposition to the Democrats health care reform. I have concerns about it myself. (Did anybody see Newsweek's article on the 7 falsehoods about health care reform. They had falsehoods from both sides, and the ones on the Dems side mostly had to do with money. They say it's going to pay for itself--nonsense. I don't believe that anymore than I believed Saddam Hussein posed an imminent danger to our country).

But either the Republicans have allowed, or actively promoting a type of oppositon to the plan that is not solution-oriented, that is not reason-based. It IS rooted in emotional appeals and ignorance and I think that is shame.
 
Every political group thinks that its oppressed by every other political group more than any other political group. Then they claim to have massive popular support (even if their supporters are often unaware that they are the groups' supporters) and mindlessly spit OMG WE ARE MAKING A REVOLUTION crap even though all the political groups are really the same exact thing.
 
^ That's generally true in the scheme of things, IMO, but it also makes it easy to overlook that the climate now is not at all business as usual.

The article suggests that the revolution will be a fundamental shift in the political landscape and I tend to agree. If the two sides are divided too deep, there will have to be a third option that emerges at some point.
 
^ That's generally true in the scheme of things, IMO, but it also makes it easy to overlook that the climate now is not at all business as usual.

Actually, I would call it exactly business as usual, just with slightly different circumstances. People will always be people. People will always want what is in their perceived best interests, and people will always be willing to manipulate other peoples' perceptions of their best interests to achieve that.

Altruism is a farce.
 
just with slightly different circumstances.

My point was that it is the circumstances that are not business as usual, otherwise I would agree that people are people and their reactions to a given situation can be fairly constant and predictable.
 
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