And all this nonesense about trying to "control" you, telling you who you are, being abusive really don't mean anything. It's a complete overreaction on your part. If you don't want to continue with the thread, that's fine. But ask yourself if you'd do the same had I said "I feel like you're more of a neo conservative"
Yes, it does mean something.
By trying to convince me that I'm really agnostic and should embrace it, really sounded like you were once again saying anyone who isn't fundamentalist can't really be what they claim to be. If a Christian doesn't believe in creation, then they can't consider themselves Christian. That to me sounds like you are trying to convince someone they aren't what they say they are, and should stop the charades. Why is it so important to you to label people's beliefs?
Politics is more about the country, city, group of people. It is about making society work. Religion, faith, or spirituality, is about the individual. It gives meaning to life, it can explain life, and it offers hope in so many ways. Now, obviously plenty have destroyed that and turned religion into a huge mess. But most people I know who have some sort of faith have it for personal reasons, not to make society work.
I get it you don't believe there is a God and think religion isn't worth it. I'm cool with that. What I don't like is for you go on a rant about something that is personal for a lot of people. If you are upset about religion infiltrating politics, I can get that because I believe in separation of church and state. But to seemingly obsess over what people do on their own time that isn't hurting anyone, baffles me. So, believing in a God is bizarre to you. OK. As I said before, astrology and radical vegetarianism is bizarre to me, too. But I wouldn't say that those people aren't what they claim to be because they don't live up to my definition of those groups.
It also doesn't help that I haven't had many good experiences with atheists, and I have mentioned a few incidents. The results are that I'm wary about them, and I tend to get overly defensive around them. Because what, are they going to try to pour whatever my head? Are they going to say nasty stuff at me for wearing a cross or ashes on my forehead?
I know you've said those people are assholes, and I'm not equating you with them. But honestly, in this thread, you're acting like Penn Teller, Sam Harris and all the others who aren't flexible at all when discussing this kind of topic. It's your view and no other. That really isn't fair and not good FYM debate.
And I honestly don't think you drink too much. Yes, you had a few earlier but I never once thought you have a problem. That was me fuming.
I may overreact, but I think getting overly defensive is what I really do.