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Old 05-01-2013, 12:09 AM   #31
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Nobody is claiming it's 100% of muslims. Just 85% or so in some countries.
You're missing the point INDY style.
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You're missing the point INDY style.
Well then be a dear and and write something useful besides "you're missing the point".
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Old 05-01-2013, 12:16 AM   #33
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You guys like to claim the "miniscule portion" of fundamentalists to defend Christianity, yet when a vast majority of muslims are exhibiting the same behaviour, suddenly it's not about proportions
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Do you hear about them bashing people's heads in with rocks very often? or ever?
Well we were talking about the last "century and a half" and I'm not really sure if the means makes any difference. Rocks, guillotine, hanging, cross, electric chair... does really make a big difference?
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"It's environmental"... well yes, it's an environment that is permeated by a violent religion
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Old 05-01-2013, 12:20 AM   #36
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Well we were talking about the last "century and a half" and I'm not really sure if the means makes any difference. Rocks, guillotine, hanging, cross, electric chair... does really make a big difference?
we're talking about bashing the heads in of gays, women, and people who want to leave the religion. Today...like, in the 21st century.... it seems you've lost the plot somewhere
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Well then be a dear and and write something useful besides "you're missing the point".
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Just 85% or so in some countries
You are talking about countries, not religions. These countries have certain socio-economic factors. This religion outside of these factors seems to not have a violent effect. Death penalty for not going along with the government has lasted since the dawn of government regardless of religion.
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Give me a fucking break. Don't talk to me like I'm fucking diamond.

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You are talking about countries, not religions. These countries have certain socio-economic factors. This religion outside of these factors seems to not have a violent effect. Death penalty for not going along with the government has lasted since the dawn of government regardless of religion.
No I'm not. I'm talking about religion in Islamic countries. In their holy book it says death to apostates. That is where they're getting it from. They aren't getting it from some regime that's trying to control their every move. I brought up Jordan; a relatively well off country with almost no issues with US or the West. They aren't part of this imaginary 'socio-economic' causality that you want to wave your hand over, yet never want to give specifics on. And they're one of the worst offenders in the study. 'socio-economic' is your 'judeo-christian'
Yes, of course there are muslims who aren't violent. They're in the minority and they're moderates (ie, they don't abide as closely to the tenants of Islam).
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we're talking about bashing the heads in of gays, women, and people who want to leave the religion. Today...like, in the 21st century.... it seems you've lost the plot somewhere
I haven't lost the plot. BUT, I'm a realist. I know that with economic growth, the removal of a theocracy, and education these killings would diminish. The removal of the religion would do nothing.
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Realist? You guys turn in to cowering pussies when the word religion is brought up. If these laws were written in a government's law book instead, had nothing to do with religion, and everyone was abiding by it, you'd be up in arms
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I haven't lost the plot. BUT, I'm a realist. I know that with economic growth, the removal of a theocracy, and education these killings would diminish. The removal of the religion would do nothing.
Lets hypothetically remove religion for a second.... Has it done nothing? Are people still being murdered for leaving a non existent religion? Are gays having concrete blocks dropped on their heads?
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And you've addressed none of my points. Good job
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