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Old 08-03-2013, 07:28 PM   #316
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In regards to the Hitchens video, it is appalling that any criticism of Islam is considered hate speech.
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Old 08-03-2013, 07:48 PM   #317
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Yes, but is it fair to consider Hitchens opinions about Islam credible?
I don't consider Hitchens opinions on most things to be credible.
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Old 08-03-2013, 09:14 PM   #318
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Why? I mean, I can guess what one would criticize him for, but I am curious.
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Old 08-03-2013, 10:28 PM   #319
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Basically, given my own politics, it's hard for me to have a favourable opinion of him. That's the basic gist of it. He was a reactionary.
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Old 08-04-2013, 02:01 AM   #320
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What does that have to do with credibility? Also, I'm not sure reactionary describes him at all
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Old 08-04-2013, 02:35 AM   #321
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He was a socialist once upon a time, wasn't he?
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He was a socialist once upon a time, wasn't he?
Even if he was - does that mean he can't say something valid about the struggle between Islam and Western Civilization?
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Old 08-09-2013, 03:38 PM   #323
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Wonderful, another acid attack...
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Old 08-09-2013, 04:20 PM   #324
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Richard Dawkins' Anti-Muslim Tweets Spark Furor, Even Among Atheist Supporters

He has a point that Muslims were more advanced 1,000 years ago compared to Europe, and these days they aren't doing so great. But coming from him and his choice of words doesn't allow much dialogue or anything constructive.
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Old 08-09-2013, 05:17 PM   #325
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But coming from him and his choice of words doesn't allow much dialogue or anything constructive.
His choice of words was matter of fact. The article put "Muslims as a group haven't achieved anything worthwhile since the Middle Ages" into his mouth
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Old 08-09-2013, 05:26 PM   #326
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They also fail to mention that the whole thing started this way:

@RichardDawkins 6 Aug
On reflection @mehdirhasan may not believe winged horse. But on reflection can a man of his intelligence believe ANYTHING in Islam?

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"MUSLIMS GAVE YOU ALCHEMY AND ALGEBRA!!!!!". Indeed, where would we be without alchemy? Dark Age achievements undoubted. But since then?

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All the world's Muslims have fewer Nobel Prizes than Trinity College, Cambridge. They did great things in the Middle Ages, though.

It was a reply to a boast someone tweeting him. But to point that out wouldn't fit the "omg Richard Dawkins is a racist" theme they're desperate to put forward.

Also, it was DAWKINS who tweeted this

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Trinity College Cambridge has more Nobel Prizes than any country in the world except USA, Britain, Germany & France. Remarkable fact.

Thanks for the investigative journalism, Huffington Post
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Dawkins' sensible rebuttal is worth a read too. And the last point he addresses is funny if you imagine him saying it
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It was a reply to a boast someone tweeting him. But to point that out wouldn't fit the "omg Richard Dawkins is a racist" theme they're desperate to put forward.
Calling someone makes anti-Muslim comments a racist is silly, because Islam is not a race. Muslims could be any race: black, white, Asian, and so on.
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Old 08-10-2013, 02:58 AM   #330
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I think it is time the Left admits that Islam is not playing according to rules...

Chris Hitchens saw that, Richard Dawkins sees it...

This is not about Christianity vs. Islam. This is about Western Civilization and everything we hold dear in the post-Enlightenmnet world.
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