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Old 03-13-2013, 03:29 PM   #91
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He looks humble and nervous. Better impression than Benedict XVI who seemed too thrilled to say he dreaded being elected.
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Old 03-13-2013, 03:55 PM   #93
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Con - has the same old views on abortion and homosexuality. Criticized Argentina allowing same sex marriage.

Pro - he took public transportation as archbishop and supposedly cooked his own meals.

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Old 03-13-2013, 04:10 PM   #94
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Does anyone expect much to change? I sure don't.

This church is only growing in places where gay rights do not exist.

There will be no married priest anytime soon. With married priests comes children up the ying yang, remember no birth control.
Who supports these priests' children? And then there is divorce, child support??
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what is positive, i suppose, is that this pope cares about the poor.

which is very unusual for conservatives.

as for SSM and abortion and vaginas, did we expect anything different?
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Old 03-13-2013, 04:14 PM   #96
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I believe a Pope cares about the poor when he starts selling off the valuables in the Vatican to go to charity
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Old 03-13-2013, 04:40 PM   #97
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I look forward to saying "Lighten up, Francis" in the coming years.
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Old 03-13-2013, 05:04 PM   #98
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CBS News papal consultant Monsignor Anthony Figueiredo said Bergoglio “did not want to be pope.”

“This man did not expect to be pope,” Figueiredo said, adding that Bergoglio’s selection is an “incredibly courageous choice.”

The new pope, who had a lung removed when he was a teenager due to a lung infection, reportedly got the second most votes after Joseph Ratzinger in the 2005 papal election to replace Pope John Paul II. Bergoglio is the first Jesuit to become pontiff.

CBS News reports that Bergoglio is not a favorite of the Vatican curia.

“This man now has a clear mandate from 115 cardinals to come in and clear out the curia,” Monsignor Figueiredo said.
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He didn't want to be Pope? Would be funny if we'll get a scene like from the movie "Habemus Papam" with the newly elected Pope just running away and hiding

Seriously, I wouldn't get my hopes up about reforms and stuff, won't happen.
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Old 03-13-2013, 05:58 PM   #100
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Disappointed given some of the other options out there, but at least it's something sorta fresh and new.

At least going to give the guy a shot for a few years.
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Old 03-13-2013, 06:37 PM   #101
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I look forward to saying "Lighten up, Francis" in the coming years.
His first official decree was actually, "Any of you touch my stuff, and I'll kill you."
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Old 03-13-2013, 07:03 PM   #102
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seems he's really focused on poverty and not being wealthy, and that he acknowledges other religions exist.

Paul Ryan -- a rich kid who took a summer job flipping hamburgers so you know he's self-made and knows about workin' for a livin' -- is going to hate him.
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Well, it's about as progressive a choice as one could hope for given the state of the Catholic Church and its hierarchy. Definitely more a "man of the people" than Ratzinger ever was, and has some encouraging views on the overly clerical nature of the Church, but he's still virulently homophobic and hasn't offered much in the way of hope on reforming the church's view on the role of women in the church. But who knows. There's definitely a greater chance of seeing some meaningful reform than had we gone with Turkson or any of the Italians.
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Old 03-13-2013, 08:24 PM   #104
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I'm not being overly optimistic that the Catholic Church will do a 180 and be more in touch with the times. It saddens me that the church has so many leaders with very archaiac views, as if found in many religions. Maybe when I'm 75, religious leaders will think as they should've at the age I am now.
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I just don't know what you want from the Church, honestly. Be more in touch with the times? That's not exactly the Church's job.
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