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Old 07-10-2013, 03:01 AM   #241
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Speaking of miracles... apparently Pope Francis has eschewed the custom beemers, benzes and fanciness for a Ford Focus... a used Ford Focus. Nice quote from Francis:



Might not agree with a lot of his stances, but I like what I've seen so far. The Catholic Church could use a healthy dose of humility.
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Old 07-10-2013, 10:08 AM   #242
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Might not agree with a lot of his stances, but I like what I've seen so far. The Catholic Church could use a healthy dose of humility.
You know, things are becoming too good to be true for this Pope. He's so humble and believes so firmly in social justice, I can't help but wonder if it's only a matter of time before shit hits the fan and we see a corrupt and even ugly side to him. It's a like a miracle ( )that there's actually a Pope who gives a damn about what Jesus taught.
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Old 07-11-2013, 10:07 AM   #243
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You know, things are becoming too good to be true for this Pope. He's so humble and believes so firmly in social justice, I can't help but wonder if it's only a matter of time before shit hits the fan and we see a corrupt and even ugly side to him. It's a like a miracle ( )that there's actually a Pope who gives a damn about what Jesus taught.
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Old 07-11-2013, 12:11 PM   #244
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Pope boosts Vatican laws against child abuse

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Pope Francis has bolstered criminal legislation against child abuse in the Vatican in an overhaul of laws that apply to the clergy and lay people who work in the city state.

The Vatican said on Thursday in a statement that the pope's decree included "a broader definition of the category of crimes against minors" including child prostitution, sexual acts with children and child pornography.

He also increased cooperation with other states against money laundering and terrorism in a continuation of reforms started by his predecessor, Benedict XVI, to get the Vatican in line with international legislation.

The new norms also increase criminal liability for people working in Vatican departments - a potentially radical change that would complement his plans to root out corruption from the scandal-ridden Vatican bureaucracy.

The laws will come into force on September 1.
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Old 07-11-2013, 12:26 PM   #245
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So...

The cardinals were fully aware the Church is corrupt and abusive when they elected Pope Francis? You mean, they had a conscience?

Um, wow.

 
Looks like God does work in mysterious ways
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The Aljazeera headline was a bit misleading. Here is AP's article. As an independent City-State, Vatican City has its own set of criminal laws (different from Church law). Until this recent change, the laws in place were taken from the 1889 Italian Code. Pope Francis updated these laws and covers in greater detail crimes against children. It also, for example, criminalizes leaks of Vatican information.
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Old 07-11-2013, 01:44 PM   #247
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It also, for example, criminalizes leaks of Vatican information.
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Old 07-29-2013, 07:56 AM   #248
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This latest Pope Francis quote just blew me away.

According to NBC News, he is quoted as saying: "If someone is gay who searches for the Lord and has goodwill, who am I to judge?"

Of course, he preceded that by saying "They say they exist."

So yeah.
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^Still, some progression.

BBC News - Archbishop Tutu 'would not worship a homophobic God'
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But only if they search for the lord
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Old 07-29-2013, 11:37 AM   #251
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This latest Pope Francis quote just blew me away.

"If someone is [Fill in blank] who searches for the Lord and has goodwill, who am I to judge?"
That's not exactly a new sentiment - yet glad to see it get more emphasis.
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But he's still against women being priests.

Maybe the next guy will.
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It will be interesting to see how few enthusiastic discussions women priests are likely to be generated even among progressives. That authority thing, I guess.
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That's not exactly a new sentiment - yet glad to see it get more emphasis.

Still, progress from Ratzinger. Who's as glass closeted as they come.
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Old 07-29-2013, 10:21 PM   #255
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It's kinda fucked up that "Being gay is sinful.... but hey, who am I to judge?...Women priests? pffff" is getting a pat on the back
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