the iron horse
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You have a farm and internet, not exactly what I consider poor.
I live on a small farm.
The internet?
I'm posting this reply on dial-up.
I guess I'm $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
You have a farm and internet, not exactly what I consider poor.
I live on a small farm.
The internet?
I'm posting this reply on dial-up.
I guess I'm $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
And then there are those that own no land whatsoever, barely have a roof over their head and can't even afford dial-up let alone a computer. Surely you are bright enough to see these differences.
Can you say that again?
I'm trying to understand.
How does that help the poor?
Me?
Selling watermelons by the side of the road.
How does that help the poor?
If you don't know....I guess you don't know
Haiti. Case closed.
Inequality is, after all, the foundation of a capitalist society. When individuals work hard, or innovate, they receive outsized rewards.
Haiti. Case closed.
Haiti. Case closed.
Sure, it's neat to close that case, I mean it isn't as if the Western capitalist powers had ANY NEGATIVE IMPACT on Haiti. It was the lazy socialist Haitians who brought it on themselves.
Yea, that's what I said.
The success most Haitian-Americans find here in America after coming to our country speaks to their talents and work ethic. Too bad they have to leave their home to realize their aspirations to succeed.
I know, why don't they just work harder? Then they wouldn't need our help...
The success most Haitian-Americans find here in America after coming to our country speaks to their talents and work ethic. Too bad they have to leave their home to realize their aspirations to succeed.
Compare them to the Dominican Republic than. Their island neighbor.because it's entirely accurate to compare Haiti with the United States.
Haiti's problems run far, far, far deeper than mindless "socialist" labels.
Compare them to the Dominican Republic than. Their island neighbor.
do you know anything about the history of Haiti? i mean right now, before you go google it.
I've learned more in the past 10 days then I ever knew. What specifically?
then you should know that the issue is neither the presence or absence of capitalism, but the historical legacy of colonialism that's still working itself out today.
Then Irvine let's compare Haiti to post colonial Singapore. Or on a much larger scale India the past generation.
i think you need to do more reading.
I agree in that I favor Capitalism over Socialism, but that is a very strong oversimplification in my view. Especially concerning the issue of economic equality, the neoliberal philosophy of trade and its effects on poor countries (free trade, nothing else), driving costs of production to an awful minimum, mainly by seeing manual labour in developing countries as a commodity that is to be exploited (their comparative advantage) etc.
Capitalism is very good when you live on the right side. But capitalism as is is hell, just as is socialism, for those who didn't have that luck in the life lottery.
You are referring to the neoclassical savings gap model, which is also championed by Jeffrey Sachs and institutions such as the World Bank and the IMF. It's a very logical and nice theory, but so far when applied to economically underdeveloped nations it had usually failed for a number of reasons. One certainly being that it has been adopted as a one size fits all model, and another important factor that it's going alongside the free trade paradigm, with the IMF's structural adjustment programmes which are not only liberalising their trade in goods, but even liberalising their financial markets.
Free trade has depressed commodity prices for pretty much all raw materials, and countries with valuable metals in their grounds repeatedly suffer from 'Dutch disease' as the international trade agreements and contracts with the Western extraction companies totally screw over both the states and the citizens of those countries. Almost no money is left in their economies, so their chances of overcoming the savings gap is zero.
Social welfare programmes are so far out of reach for them it's pretty much an exercise in futility discussing it at this moment. They've hardly had any fat years in the past two to three decades, and those that could be considered fat didn't even pay off what was lost in the lean years.