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Old 08-26-2010, 06:32 PM   #1
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The major corporation behind the grassroots Tea Party

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Chances are you've never heard of Charles and David Koch. The brothers own Koch Industries, a Kansas-based conglomerate that operates oil refineries in several states and is the company behind brands including Brawny paper towels, Dixie cups, Georgia-Pacific lumber, Lycra fibers and Stainmaster carpet. Forbes ranks Koch Industries as the second-largest privately held company in the U.S. — and the Koch brothers themselves? They're worth billions.

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The brothers also have created several neutral-sounding groups like Citizens for a Sound Economy — which staged media events to oppose President Clinton's proposed Btu tax on energy — and Citizens for the Environment, which called many environmental problems, including acid rain, "myths."

David Koch founded the group Americans for Prosperity Foundation, which has been linked to the Tea Party — training hundreds of activists in Texas and hosting talking points for Tea Party activists on its website.
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On Thursday's Fresh Air, Mayer joins Terry Gross for a conversation about the Kochs' funding efforts, particularly what she describes as their broad and vigorous campaigns to manufacture grassroots political opinion. As she notes in the article, "the brothers have funded opposition campaigns against so many Obama administration policies — from health care reform to the economic-stimulus program — that, in political circles, their ideological network is known as the Kochtopus." (Koch Industries has responded to recent media coverage and Internet discussions with a set of "Koch Facts" published on its website.)

The Brothers Koch: Rich, Political And Playing To Win : NPR

So a billionaire helps fund the Tea Party and such groups in order to raise the opposition on environmental issues, healthcare, and pretty much anything that would effect THEIR way of business?

At one point in the interview she says someone that works for Koch provided the quote,
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we use rednecks do the dirty work for us
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I can't wait to see the full article, should be an interesting read.
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Thanks for this. I have been saying all along they must be funded by corporate interests.
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I just listened to the NPR radio show segment on this on my way home from work. Ggrrr. But I cannot say I am the least bit surprised.
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Thanks for this. I have been saying all along they must be funded by corporate interests.
I always assume if a group is called Citizens For or Americans For or Taxpayers For that a big corporation or group of corporations is behind it.
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I'm going to set up a front group called "Concerned Citizens for a Better America, Mom and Apple Pie" and launder loads of dirty cash through it.
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THE 2004 CAMPAIGN - THE PHILANTHROPIST - THE 2004 CAMPAIGN - THE PHILANTHROPIST - And for His Next Feat, a Billionaire Sets Sights on Bush - NYTimes.com

Billionaires fund the left. Billionaires fund the right.

Shocker.
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I'm going to set up a front group called "Concerned Citizens for a Better America, Mom and Apple Pie" and launder loads of dirty cash through it.
Exactly!
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Billionaires fund the left. Billionaires fund the right.

Shocker.
I like how conservative Americans conveniently never mention that George Soros was long funding anti-communist intellectuals and movements in Eastern Europe for decades back when the Soviets were the big, bad people. I guess then he was a commendable philanthropist?
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If you listen to the interview she mentions Soros, in fact she said she's written some not so flattering articles about him.

But she said one thing that stands out is that Soros is very transparent about his funding the Kochs are not. Soros is funding, Kochs have been manufacturing opinions.
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The left calls it what it is. The right calls it grassroots.
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Soros is funding, Kochs have been manufacturing opinions.
That's probably very much in the eye of the beholder -- it's pretty clear from the Times article that Soros has his own ideological agenda, same as the Koch boys. Regardless, whatever side of the aisle you're on, whoever shouts loudest and longest tends to sway the argument -- and the shouters are usually bought by someone.

Big money can be used for good (the billionaires deciding to give away half their fortunes, the Gates Foundation, etc) or ill (527s, lobbying, etc). Tough to regulate without tossing out baby and bathwater.
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I don't know much about the shadowy forces behind the Tea Party, but can I just say how annoying it is, as an outsider, that the Right have coopted phrases such as 'Liberty' to a sufficient extent that any website I come across related to keywords such as 'Liberty' is almost guaranteed to be of the political Right, indeed probably the far Right. It's kind of sad, really.
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Any US website, I guess is what I really mean, to be clear.
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I don't know much about the shadowy forces behind the Tea Party, but can I just say how annoying it is, as an outsider, that the Right have coopted phrases such as 'Liberty' to a sufficient extent that any website I come across related to keywords such as 'Liberty' is almost guaranteed to be of the political Right, indeed probably the far Right. It's kind of sad, really.
Amen to that. The insinuation over who's a better patriot or loves this country more or whatever BS really has to stop. It's insane.

Anywho, this story's been making the rounds on TV a bit-doesn't surprise me in the least. Grassroots movements usually take time to build up, these Tea Parties, on the other hand, seemed to just pop up out of nowhere one day. That, combined with the fact that Fox News has been so heavily behind them should've been a massive sign these were all manipulated setups. This story could have not existed at all and the evidence would still be there.

I feel kinda bad for any average, everyday people that show up at these events. They genuinely think they're involved in some game-changing thing they helped to create, and the truth is just the opposite. They're pawns in yet another corporate scheme. It really is disgusting the way these groups can manipulate people so horribly. And when government officials get involved, that just adds to the difficulty of regulating this crap.

Nathan makes a very good point, too, though .

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That's probably very much in the eye of the beholder -- it's pretty clear from the Times article that Soros has his own ideological agenda, same as the Koch boys.
Of course they both have an agenda, no one is arguing that...

Read the article when it comes out and tell me if you think they are the same thing.
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