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Old 11-03-2010, 05:42 PM   #526
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Actually it is- see name calling:





What is sad is selective enforcement of forum rules.

Labeling someone a troll that you don't agree we is acceptable, which sometimes is name calling but profanity and personal attacks are ok these days with some moderators.

I say enforce all the rules with equanimity.

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Profanity is fine, actually. You noted a part that says excessive profanity. That's subjective.

It's fun to read.
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Old 11-03-2010, 07:54 PM   #527
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that's a silly statement.
How so?

Maybe there will be some who will come. But I doubt large crowds will show up.
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Old 11-03-2010, 07:56 PM   #528
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People like Dubya. Seems like a nice guy to have a beer with. I might cheer him riding around on a riding cart after a few beers too, because I really like those baseball stadium riding carts.

Anyway, nice guy, bad president.
I agree.

I actually feel sorry for him. He seemed deluded, especially about Iraq. And he did surround himself with the wrong people. Rumsfeld should never had been Defense Secretary.
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Old 11-03-2010, 08:01 PM   #529
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Does anyone know if he has kept the ranch he picked up when he adopted that "cowboy" image to run for political office?


I believe he still has the ranch in Crawford as well as his home in the Dallas area.

Here is a video from retired Col Mark Tillman, former Air Force One pilot for GWB.



http://premierespeakers.com/mark_tillman/video/14296

It is kind of long but a really interesting account of what it was like behind the scenes on 911, among other things.
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Old 11-03-2010, 08:03 PM   #530
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Actually it is- see name calling:

What is sad is selective enforcement of forum rules.

Labeling someone a troll that you don't agree we is acceptable, which sometimes is name calling but profanity and personal attacks are ok these days with some moderators.

I say enforce all the rules with equanimity.

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and if i called you a colossal tool, that'd be name calling and trolling. but i'm not going to
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Old 11-03-2010, 08:32 PM   #531
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Woah, it's the desk from Star Trek: Voyager.
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Old 11-03-2010, 08:41 PM   #532
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Talking about someones legacy so soon after they left office really shows how much of an a.d.d. culture we've become.
I agree with you here. Only in the fullness of time can a balanced judgement can be formed. It may be to his favour or his disfavour but it is too early to tell.
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Old 11-03-2010, 08:56 PM   #533
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Old 11-03-2010, 11:48 PM   #534
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Actually it is- see name calling:

What is sad is selective enforcement of forum rules.

Labeling someone a troll that you don't agree we is acceptable, which sometimes is name calling but profanity and personal attacks are ok these days with some moderators.

I say enforce all the rules with equanimity.

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Diamond, public threads are not the place to debate forum rules and call into question moderating styles. If you have concerns, private message the appropriate people. As to the rest, it might be helpful for you to understand that your interpretation of the rules isn't necessarily the same as the mods' interpretation of the rules.

And as far as quoting the FAQ goes, there's a very germane reason you forgot to include in your quotation of "What constitutes a post or thread worthy of being closed, deleted, or edited by the forum moderators?"

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Topics that are dragged on or 'bumped' up for no legitimate reason or to start a fight/get a rise out of people...etc.
Check your PMs.
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Apparently he's pissed at Kanye too...
That's the worst moment of your presidency, George? THAT? Really?

Not, say ... oh, I don't know ......... the day your country was attacked and thousands of people died?

Kanye had a very mature response to Bush's comment. It threw me for a loop.
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That's the worst moment of your presidency, George? THAT? Really?

Not, say ... oh, I don't know ......... the day your country was attacked and thousands of people died?
That's kinda what I was thinking, too.

I could probably have a very pleasant non-political conversation with Bush if I ever met him. I've no problem believing that. Just for the love of all that is good, don't let him run (or attempt to run) anything anymore, please. I fully agree that it's difficult to properly judge somebody's presidency so soon after they leave, but this one, I'm thinking won't be that difficult. There may have been a couple decent moments here and there. But only a couple. The end days of his presidency involved someone throwing a shoe at him, for cripes' sake.

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How bad a drunk was George W. Bush before he gave up alcohol at the age of 40?

"I wasn't a knee-walkin' drunk," the former president tells Matt Lauer in an interview previewing his new memoir, Decision Points. "I could easily have a beer or two, or a martini, before dinner, bourbons, B&Bs. I was a drinker."

Of his relationship with alcohol, Bush says, "It became a love and, therefore, began to compete for my love with my wife and my daughters."

It also got him in trouble with his parents.

Bush recounts for the special Matt Lauer Reports, airing Monday, Nov. 8 at 8 p.m. ET, what he calls one of the worst examples in which alcohol combined with his "wise-ass" personality.

"So I'm drunk at the dinner table at Mother and Dad's house in Maine. And my brothers and sister are there, Laura's there. And I'm sitting next to a beautiful woman, friend of Mother and Dad's," says Bush. "And I said to her out loud, 'What is sex like after 50?' "

After that, one could hear a pin drop. It was "total silence," says Bush. " And not only silence, but like serious daggers" from my mom and my wife.

He says that, with a case of "after-dinner remorses," he later called the woman to apologize. But she got the last laugh. Bush says that on his 50th birthday, when he was Texas governor, the woman sent him a letter reading: "Dear Governor, Well, what's the answer?"

He never answers that particular question but does tell Lauer that he quit drinking cold turkey the day after his 40th birthday in 1986 and never once fell off the wagon – not even a sip of wine with communion in church.

"I hope somebody reads this book and says, 'If Bush can quit, I can quit,' " he adds.
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Old 11-04-2010, 01:42 PM   #538
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Maybe he should have Josh Hamilton waterboarded...

"Damn right."

That's what former president George W. Bush told CIA officials when they came to ask him for permission to waterboard alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed, according to a Washington Post report on the 43rd president's forthcoming book, "Decision Points."

Mohammed supposedly had knowledge of brewing terrorist plots against the United States, and Bush had little reservation about using the practice of simulated drowning on the detainee to extract them.

"I'd do it again to save lives," Bush, who refused to call the interrogation technique "torture" during his presidency, said at a forum earlier this year. He repeats this willingness to use the procedure and maintains that it isn't torture in his book, according to the Post.
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What I have seen of this book, it seems like it will lose W more fans.

He really is tone deaf, just an over-grown 'frat boy'.
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:06 PM   #540
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I don't know about that-the way things are now the book will probably be huge and he'll be winning fans
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