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Old 07-10-2013, 08:38 PM   #46
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Arizona Republicans Propose Bill That Would Not Allow Atheists To Graduate High School

The GOP is fighting so hard to maintain political power and influence in this country, they are hurting democracy.
*Media Hyperbole Alert - Misleading headline*

Still, a fairly worthless bill.
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Old 07-10-2013, 09:40 PM   #47
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*Media Hyperbole Alert - Misleading headline*

Still, a fairly worthless bill.
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:30 PM   #48
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*Media Hyperbole Alert - Misleading headline*

Still, a fairly worthless bill.
True, but it still begs the question: what the hell is wrong with Arizona? It's almost becoming a monthly ritual to see some absolutely absurd backwards law being proposed by their Republicans.
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Some people have issues with modernity.

The GOP speaks for them.
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Old 01-08-2014, 12:11 PM   #50
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A bit of controversy for Governor Christie:

Top Christie aide to Port Authority: 'Time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee' - NorthJersey.com
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Old 01-08-2014, 01:48 PM   #51
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I don't think stuff like that is going to matter too much. Sort of like Robert Gates new book that said both HRC and Biden admitted to opposing the Iraq surge in 2007 for political reasons. Whatever the case, there's dirt on everyone.

I believe 2016 will be just like 2012 - a referendum on the big picture. The GOP, barring some major overhauls, stands little chance to win the WH regardless. If they agree to immigration reform, maybe that begins to change. Until then - no.
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I certainly don't mean to imply this is a White House-altering news story.
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Old 01-09-2014, 02:30 PM   #53
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I think it matters a lot

The rational GOP want Christie, they see him as their 'best' chance, which he probably is. McCain in 2004 and Romney in 2012 were the best the GOP had, other choices would have been complete blowouts like Goldwater in 64.

But now all the more Conservative GOP will be relentless against Christie, his one big playing card was that he was competent, and bi-partisan. This total fuck up puts out on main stage that that was always bullshit. This blowhard, with his populace ways, does not deserve the praise and accolades he has gotten.

Of course anything can happen in 2016. The race does not go to the swiftest and best.
It is only a two horse final race. A 3 legged horse can win.
George Bush proved that, if the other horse has 2 broken legs.
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let Tony Soprano be Tony Soprano.
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This isn't a good look:

Christie camp held Sandy relief money hostage, mayor alleges | MSNBC
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Old 01-18-2014, 11:22 AM   #56
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Following from afar, Christie isn't liked by the rest of GOP, so he was unlikely to get their support, these issues currently are not likely to endear him to undecideds and certainly not to any democrats who may have previously liked him.

Does this mean he is dead in the water? Or can he ride it out?
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Following from afar, Christie isn't liked by the rest of GOP, so he was unlikely to get their support, these issues currently are not likely to endear him to undecideds and certainly not to any democrats who may have previously liked him.

Does this mean he is dead in the water? Or can he ride it out?

I think many in the Republican elite had already crowned Christie for the nomination. Like they did with McCain, Romney and the Bushes. Both Goldwater and Reagan, two true conservative outsiders had to fight to win the nomination.

I think this has stopped Christies nomination. If they try or he attempts, it will be a tough row to plow. Doing a two hour, often rambling, press conference did not help him. He seemed angry at times and presented a negative demeanor.
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In a way, it's too bad. My sense is he will survive, but the primaries are going to be tough for an "ethnic" like him, and some will hate him forever because he seems to like Obama, and you're not going to get very far with the GOP base if you don't paint O as anything less than the antiChrist.

I could consider voting for him, because he's from the northeast and you can't be a caveman when it comes to social issues and survive up here. And he doesn't seem like an Ayn Rand-toting free market idiot ideologue either. But I don't know too much about what really goes on in NJ, so I might just be responding to the positive media attention he usually gets.
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I think someone from Jersey would describe Jersey politicians as "too willing to fall into Jersey stereotypes."
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Lead legislator on Christie resignation: 'Premature'

he does not have to resign,
he could just hang in there and end up going to jail

the first one would be better, he deserves the second
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