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Old 02-05-2013, 01:18 PM   #196
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Dammit, I'm still on my phone and can't type that fast.

Annie needs to come back and tell me how politics, not religion, were responsible for various genocides throughout history. Stalin-era Russia is the only example of mass murder I can think of that was not entirely a result of introducing fear and/or hatred of another religion into politics.
The first world war was after the assassination of the Austrian Archduke in Sarajevo and was caused by increased conflict between kingdoms within Europe. The second world War was caused by the great depression and anger within Germany after what happened after the first War. There was some scary scenes in Greece with an extreme right-wing political party rising to power after the country's economy collapsed.

It's far too simplistic to suggest that one factor alone was the single cause of an outbreak of war.
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Old 02-05-2013, 01:39 PM   #197
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Well hold on though. No one is trying to convert anyone. It was purely about whether you could make a logical argument for God
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Old 02-05-2013, 01:57 PM   #198
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The first world war was after the assassination of the Austrian Archduke in Sarajevo and was caused by increased conflict between kingdoms within Europe. The second world War was caused by the great depression and anger within Germany after what happened after the first War. There was some scary scenes in Greece with an extreme right-wing political party rising to power after the country's economy collapsed.

It's far too simplistic to suggest that one factor alone was the single cause of an outbreak of war.
As it's also too simplistic to call it all politics. I didn't say religion, and only religion, was the cause of ever war.
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Old 02-05-2013, 07:33 PM   #199
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What does this even mean?
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And what is "scientism"? Is that a made up word for when one doesn't like the answers science gives?
Look it up.
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Undoing the damage of the University

Exactly.

Look it up.

Is this math you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better?
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Old 02-05-2013, 08:14 PM   #201
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Is this math you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better?
No, that would be:

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Old 02-05-2013, 08:16 PM   #202
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Undoing the damage of the University

Exactly.

Look it up.
This doesn't surprise me at all. Ignorance in its purest form. Keep up the good work

I guess I'll have to wait for one of your radio hosts to tell you what to say
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No, that would be:

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I'm looking forward to Hillary as well!

(I see Megyn Kelly didn't pop everyone's epistemic bubble)
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Old 02-05-2013, 08:29 PM   #204
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This doesn't surprise me at all. Ignorance in its purest form. Keep up the good work

I guess I'll have to wait for one of your radio hosts to tell you what to say
Really? Kind of full of ourselves aren't we?

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Advocates of scientism today claim the sole mantle of rationality, frequently equating science with reason itself. Yet it seems the very antithesis of reason to insist that science can do what it cannot, or even that it has done what it demonstrably has not. As a scientist, I would never deny that scientific discoveries can have important implications for metaphysics, epistemology, and ethics, and that everyone interested in these topics needs to be scientifically literate. But the claim that science and science alone can answer longstanding questions in these fields gives rise to countless problems.

In contrast to reason, a defining characteristic of superstition is the stubborn insistence that something — a fetish, an amulet, a pack of Tarot cards — has powers which no evidence supports. From this perspective, scientism appears to have as much in common with superstition as it does with properly conducted scientific research. Scientism claims that science has already resolved questions that are inherently beyond its ability to answer.

Of all the fads and foibles in the long history of human credulity, scientism in all its varied guises — from fanciful cosmology to evolutionary epistemology and ethics — seems among the more dangerous, both because it pretends to be something very different from what it really is and because it has been accorded widespread and uncritical adherence. Continued insistence on the universal competence of science will serve only to undermine the credibility of science as a whole. The ultimate outcome will be an increase of radical skepticism that questions the ability of science to address even the questions legitimately within its sphere of competence. One longs for a new Enlightenment to puncture the pretensions of this latest superstition.

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Exactly.

Look it up.
Scientism is a nothingness, positivism on the other-hand does exist and it is something many scientists try to avoid, though some do, though it's a slightly more nuanced than this scientism nonsense. You don't really need to make up some silly bogeyman.
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Really? Kind of full of ourselves aren't we?

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Why don't you try answering a question in your own words instead of cowering behind short non-answers, links, and pitifully uninformed videos?
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Why don't you try answering a question in your own words instead of cowering behind short non-answers, links, and pitifully uninformed videos?
I did yesterday, what good did that do?

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Now, why don't you try answering a question without resorting to insults or a condescending attitude? And if you feel you're too learned and wise to be bothered by my hayseed notions and prejudices please let me know now so we don't waste our time.
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Old 02-05-2013, 09:31 PM   #208
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What does this even mean?

And what is "scientism"? Is that a made up word for when one doesn't like the answers science gives?
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Dennis Prager is not anti-science he's anti-scientism, as am I. To co-opt your language, no truly logical thought can lead toward a belief that science alone can render truth about the world, reality and the nature of man.
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this doesn't mean anything.

Science has been chipping away at all of these things for centuries. What has religion done?
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Exactly.


Look it up.

And I'm the one resorting to condescension? Are you mad at me for ripping into the shitty video you posted?
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Old 02-05-2013, 09:35 PM   #209
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"Look it up" is almost always a terrible response to someone online, considering backing up your claims with something takes a quick google search.
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Old 02-05-2013, 09:39 PM   #210
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To me "look it up" means that what he would post himself would just be a cut and paste job anyway. At least digest what you're reading and shit it out all over me under your own volition
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