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Old 02-05-2013, 08:10 AM   #181
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Well actually you can prove that dragons and leprechauns don't exist. These kind of examples that get thrown out are just flippant. They're mythical creatures (emphasis on creatures), they don't exist, they never existed in any literal sense. If they did exist they would exist as flesh and blood and it's relatively easy to take a look around and see that, nope, they aren't there (setting aside the difficulties of keeping track of species with very few members).

God is a very different proposition.
You can't prove that they never existed. There are millions of creatures that have existed on Earth that we haven't yet, or possibly never will, find evidence for. The example stands. I can change it to Thor if it makes you feel better.

"They're mythical, they don't exist, they never existed in any literal sense."

I don't know how this is relevant. Every other god except yours would fall into this category too, no?
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Old 02-05-2013, 08:41 AM   #182
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You can't prove that they never existed. There are millions of creatures that have existed on Earth that we haven't yet, or possibly never will, find evidence for. The example stands. I can change it to Thor if it makes you feel better.
It doesn't make me feel better, actually.

yeah ok, but let's say for the sake of argument that dragons would be a little harder to miss than some of this earth's myriad weird species. Except as an analogue for dinosaurs, we can be... fairly sure they don't exist. And if we can't we can keep looking.


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"They're mythical, they don't exist, they never existed in any literal sense."

I don't know how this is relevant. Every other god except yours would fall into this category too, no?
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Old 02-05-2013, 09:00 AM   #183
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It doesn't make me feel better, actually.

yeah ok, but let's say for the sake of argument that dragons would be a little harder to miss than some of this earth's myriad weird species. Except as an analogue for dinosaurs, we can be... fairly sure they don't exist. And if we can't we can keep looking.
Most dead animals don't fossilize. There are countless animals that once lived that we'll never know about. I do like that we're suddenly so interested in solid proof of existence though. But now we're getting way off topic

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Old 02-05-2013, 09:00 AM   #184
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Jive must have been forced to go to the shittiest church ever as a kid.
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:01 AM   #185
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No, sir. Family of heathens
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:44 AM   #186
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I can't prove it doesn't exist doesn't mean that it des exist, when I also can't prove it does exist, so why is this even relevant anyway?
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:55 AM   #187
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I can't prove it doesn't exist doesn't mean that it des exist, when I also can't prove it does exist, so why is this even relevant anyway?
God and Jesus and Dragons and such
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Old 02-05-2013, 11:02 AM   #188
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Santa may exist. You can't prove he doesn't.

Asking someone to prove something doesn't exist is not a real logical argument to prove something does exist.
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God and Jesus and Dragons and such
Jesus was a dragon, duh.
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These back and forth conversations here are a very good example of why I have long described myself as an agnostic.

I have no idea what is out there. Is it possible that there is a higher power directing everything, whether actively or passively? Sure. Do I have proof of it? No. Do I think anyone has proven it one way or another? No. Do I think it's possible to prove? Honestly, no.

And I am happy living with this view. Some people will say that it's akin to fence-sitting, but to me it's just an expression of very honest thought and feeling. I don't know and it doesn't bother me. I don't believe that knowing, one way or another, impacts how we should live our short lives on this planet - honestly, honourably and hopefully happily.
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I can't imagine anyone who has been on the internet long enough to navigate beyond the google homepage could still be interested in debating whether or not God exists. "Why is sky" and "shuwh wyeyru wmcsmcn72763" are equally viable questions to discuss, and nowhere near as divisive.
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"shuwh wyeyru wmcsmcn72763" .

I don't know, I could see that causing some really heated debates on Facebook. The kind that destroys friendships.
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Old 02-05-2013, 11:37 AM   #193
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The nation is crumbling because of that asshole wmcsmcn72763 and his socialist shuwh politics!!

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I can't imagine anyone who has been on the internet long enough to navigate beyond the google homepage could still be interested in debating whether or not God exists. "Why is sky" and "shuwh wyeyru wmcsmcn72763" are equally viable questions to discuss, and nowhere near as divisive.
I never used to debate this topic (pointless and mostly uninteresting) but I did spend a lot of my time when I was younger, in my early 20s (seems so long ago), wondering about whether God exists, in what form, what happens to us after we die. Particularly the last one - that was the time when my grandparents started to die and so I think it made the question more real than it had previously been.

Now, I never wonder those things anymore. I have found a great peace in not wondering and just living my life as best as I possibly can. I found that when I mentally divorced religion from morality and salvation from good citizenry, it was wonderfully liberating.
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:32 PM   #195
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The nation is crumbling because of that asshole wmcsmcn72763 and his socialist shuwh politics!!

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If wmcsmcn72763 can get a million likes by next week, he will be able to prove that Jesus was a dragon!
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