The Even Gayer than the Gay thread - Page 21 - U2 Feedback

Go Back   U2 Feedback > Lypton Village > Free Your Mind
Click Here to Login
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 07-04-2015, 11:43 AM   #301
45:33
 
cobl04's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: East Point to Shaolin
Posts: 55,041
Local Time: 04:36 PM
I honestly think I have played a massive role in changing my parents' views on homosexuality. Not that they were ever hideous bigots about it, they just had that old-world, casually homophobic, probably against it just cos, sorta views.
__________________

__________________
cobl04 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2015, 11:35 AM   #302
Blue Crack Addict
 
PhilsFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Standing on the shore, facing east.
Posts: 18,886
Local Time: 12:36 AM
My cousin is gay and no one in my extended family thought it was a big deal. They're all conservatives, too. I guess it's just different in the northeast in that respect. Everyone's Catholic, too, and no one really gives a shit.
__________________

__________________
PhilsFan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2015, 08:54 PM   #303
Refugee
 
CrashedCarDriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Turkmenbashin'
Posts: 1,607
Local Time: 04:36 PM
Have any of these points been raised?

1. What does this mean to 'adaptation'? Isnt it human nature to adapt? Its a shit thing, but imperfect humans have to live in an imperfect world. Gay people have survived to now getting married to people in the opposite sex and reproducing, their lives might be a 'lie' (but that is subjective). < - This is not homophobic, but in a survival of the fittest, being unable to adapt means perishing

2. Isnt this just an exercise in the canon of tolerance? To destigmatize homosexuality, to stop kids committing suicide because they were unable to handle the burden of being gay? so with this does this mean: "Its ok you can get married now"?
__________________
CrashedCarDriver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2015, 09:08 PM   #304
45:33
 
cobl04's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: East Point to Shaolin
Posts: 55,041
Local Time: 04:36 PM
I hate Australia.
__________________
cobl04 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2015, 09:16 PM   #305
She's the One
 
martha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Orange County and all over the goddamn place
Posts: 42,337
Local Time: 09:36 PM
Is this a down side to a parliamentary system, or is it a peculiarly Australian failing?
__________________
martha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2015, 09:34 PM   #306
Refugee
 
CrashedCarDriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Turkmenbashin'
Posts: 1,607
Local Time: 04:36 PM
another couple of points


1. 90% of the world (or more) doesnt recognize homosexuality

2. marry someone of the opposite sex instead?

3. No marriages for anyone! Have a free for all instead?
__________________
CrashedCarDriver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2015, 09:35 PM   #307
45:33
 
cobl04's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: East Point to Shaolin
Posts: 55,041
Local Time: 04:36 PM
A bit of both. The current govt is conservative and the party has a binding stance against SSM. They had a 6-hour meeting yesterday about whether or not they would allow party members to have a conscience vote, but decided against it. We now have an opportunistic cunt of prime minister saying that if his govt wins another term we'll have a plebiscite in 2017 (also his sister is gay lol). A lot of conservatives and arseholes saying 'oh well this is great! Put it to the people and if it passes, well good'. But that's such a cop-out because it's all political point-scoring and shows no care whatsoever for yknow, gay people. Otherwise they'd just have a fucking plebiscite or referendum now.

Had it been put to parliament it still probably would have failed but the whole thing just makes me so fucking angry. An absolute embarrassment.
__________________
cobl04 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2015, 12:43 AM   #308
Blue Crack Supplier
 
Irvine511's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 30,497
Local Time: 12:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CrashedCarDriver View Post
another couple of points


1. 90% of the world (or more) doesnt recognize homosexuality

2. marry someone of the opposite sex instead?

3. No marriages for anyone! Have a free for all instead?


Why don't you just go ahead and marry someone of the same sex?
__________________
Irvine511 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2015, 03:45 AM   #309
Resident Photo Buff
Forum Moderator
 
Diemen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Somewhere in middle America
Posts: 13,238
Local Time: 11:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CrashedCarDriver View Post
another couple of points
... To what end?
__________________
Diemen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2015, 11:46 AM   #310
Galeonbroad
 
Galeongirl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Schoo Fishtank
Posts: 70,773
Local Time: 06:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CrashedCarDriver View Post
Have any of these points been raised?

1. What does this mean to 'adaptation'? Isnt it human nature to adapt? Its a shit thing, but imperfect humans have to live in an imperfect world. Gay people have survived to now getting married to people in the opposite sex and reproducing, their lives might be a 'lie' (but that is subjective). < - This is not homophobic, but in a survival of the fittest, being unable to adapt means perishing

2. Isnt this just an exercise in the canon of tolerance? To destigmatize homosexuality, to stop kids committing suicide because they were unable to handle the burden of being gay? so with this does this mean: "Its ok you can get married now"?
Quote:
Originally Posted by CrashedCarDriver View Post
another couple of points


1. 90% of the world (or more) doesnt recognize homosexuality

2. marry someone of the opposite sex instead?

3. No marriages for anyone! Have a free for all instead?
Not exactly sure what the point you're trying to make is, but I'll give it a shot.

1 Adaptation means survival of the fittest, but animals also adapt to their surroundings. Why do people become gay? We don't know, but some of us are and some of us are not. This could very well be an evolutionary adaptation. The earth is over populated, humans are becoming a disease to the planet, gay people don't procreate so they're very much useful to keep populations in check.

2 And yes, it is very much an excercise in tolerance. Kids commit suicide not because they cannot handle the burden of being gay, but because they feel alienated when they get bullied all the time because OTHER people cannot handle it. Being able to get married tells them that it's okay indeed, that they're normal people like everybody else, and now finally getting the same rights. And it shows others that it's not okay to just terrorise someone's life because they're gay.


1 And your other point, 90%? That's rather a lot. I would say it's far lower now. And even if it's true, then what? What are you trying to say with this, because the majority of people don't accept it, we shouldn't either? A long time ago 100% of the US was pretty damn positive towards slavery... so should we not have discarded that then?

2 Why would I marry someone I have no feelings for?

3 that would be a fair point, if marriage was completely discarded, that would be the most equal option. But it's never going to happen since it's too rooted in our society.



So this leaves me, what exactly is the point you're trying to make? You are posting rather random statements that make very little sense..
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by GraceRyan View Post
And if U2 EVER did Hawkmoon live....and the version from the Lovetown Tour, my uterus would leave my body and fling itself at Bono - for realz.
Don't worry baby, it's gonna be all right. Uncertainty can be a guiding light...
Galeongirl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2015, 11:54 AM   #311
45:33
 
cobl04's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: East Point to Shaolin
Posts: 55,041
Local Time: 04:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Galeongirl View Post
You are posting rather random statements that make very little sense..
That's literally every single one of his posts ever. Don't engage an idiot.
__________________
cobl04 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2015, 11:58 AM   #312
Blue Crack Distributor
 
bono_212's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 81,105
Local Time: 09:36 PM
I seriously think he might have every single member of the forum on ignore.
__________________
bono_212 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2015, 12:16 PM   #313
Resident Photo Buff
Forum Moderator
 
Diemen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Somewhere in middle America
Posts: 13,238
Local Time: 11:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cobl04 View Post
That's literally every single one of his posts ever. Don't engage an idiot.
Don't insult other posters.
__________________
Diemen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2015, 12:25 PM   #314
Galeonbroad
 
Galeongirl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Schoo Fishtank
Posts: 70,773
Local Time: 06:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cobl04 View Post
That's literally every single one of his posts ever. Don't engage an idiot.
I don't think I've encountered him before, the avi and name don't ring a bell. So I'd say it's fair to give a person I don't know a chance.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by GraceRyan View Post
And if U2 EVER did Hawkmoon live....and the version from the Lovetown Tour, my uterus would leave my body and fling itself at Bono - for realz.
Don't worry baby, it's gonna be all right. Uncertainty can be a guiding light...
Galeongirl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2015, 12:27 PM   #315
Blue Crack Distributor
 
bono_212's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 81,105
Local Time: 09:36 PM
He's been here for years. He makes a post that's random off the wall and then NEVER engages in conversation.
__________________

__________________
bono_212 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:36 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Design, images and all things inclusive copyright © Interference.com