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Old 06-26-2015, 01:51 PM   #151
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And if U2 EVER did Hawkmoon live....and the version from the Lovetown Tour, my uterus would leave my body and fling itself at Bono - for realz.
Don't worry baby, it's gonna be all right. Uncertainty can be a guiding light...
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Old 06-26-2015, 02:53 PM   #152
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I'm happy that many of my friends can finally be recognized as married couples throughout the whole country that they have served and bled for in the Army, Navy, and Air Force. (I don't know anybody who served in the Marines that well). We're gonna have BIG and more meaningful Independence Day celebration next week.

One thing I keep seeing and cannot understand is the whole "Defense of religious freedom" aspect. How is allowing everyone the opportunity to avail themselves of a civil institution affecting your religious freedom? You can still go to church, right? Your god hasn't suddenly been banned, has he/she? As much as some seem to want a theocracy (how's that working out in other parts of the world?), the US Government is not a religious institution.

Get over it and join the celebration.

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Old 06-26-2015, 02:54 PM   #153
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* Defense of religious freedom...

Guess I had the opening parentheses too close to a capital D.

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Are churches being legally compelled now to perform same-sex marriages? I thought a church had the right to refuse to marry anyone they wanted to?

I ask because the only person who's posted anything remotely negative on my Facebook feed has framed this as a violation of the first amendment, and is convinced that religious institutions are now being forced to perform same-sex marriages if someone asks for one.

Which kinda begs my own question, now that there are a multitude of options available, why would any two men or two women ever want to get married in a church that is only allowing it because they're being legally compelled to?
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Old 06-26-2015, 03:07 PM   #155
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Are churches being legally compelled now to perform same-sex marriages? I thought a church had the right to refuse to marry anyone they wanted to?

I ask because the only person who's posted anything remotely negative on my Facebook feed has framed this as a violation of the first amendment, and is convinced that religious institutions are now being forced to perform same-sex marriages if someone asks for one.

Which kinda begs my own question, now that there are a multitude of options available, why would any two men or two women ever want to get married in a church that is only allowing it because they're being legally compelled to?
I'm pretty sure your friend is completely wrong. You can't force a church to do something, I mean, that's the idea behind separation of church and state, right?
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Old 06-26-2015, 03:14 PM   #157
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Are churches being legally compelled now to perform same-sex marriages? I thought a church had the right to refuse to marry anyone they wanted to?

I ask because the only person who's posted anything remotely negative on my Facebook feed has framed this as a violation of the first amendment, and is convinced that religious institutions are now being forced to perform same-sex marriages if someone asks for one.

Which kinda begs my own question, now that there are a multitude of options available, why would any two men or two women ever want to get married in a church that is only allowing it because they're being legally compelled to?
Your friend is wrong. He's not understanding the difference between a state marriage and a church marriage. No church is going to be forced to marry gays, yet the state is being forced to marry them by law. Not religion, just law.
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Old 06-26-2015, 03:15 PM   #158
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I'm pretty sure your friend is completely wrong. You can't force a church to do something, I mean, that's the idea behind separation of church and state, right?
Yeah, it took me all of five seconds on Google to find out how full of shit he is.

I'm not even sure why he's so concerned about Christian churches' reaction to this, considering he's hardcore Jewish and has up to this point always posted things in favour of SSM.
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Are churches being legally compelled now to perform same-sex marriages? I thought a church had the right to refuse to marry anyone they wanted to?
Yes, churches can still refuse to marry Catholics to Lutherans.
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FUCK YEAH SCOTUS.



Also, the Biden thing was true:
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Wait, how does the tweet embed work???

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Just embed the number at the end of the link:

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Wait, how does the tweet embed work???

Biden:

Looks photoshopped to me. Awesome, but shopped.
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