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Old 08-26-2009, 11:07 AM   #121
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What about texting while driving laws, are those a form of tyranny?


anything that remotely inconveniences a libertarian is tyranny.

they want what they want when they want it, and fuck off if you don't like it.

it's awesome being a libertarian.
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Old 08-26-2009, 11:11 AM   #122
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I just thought about it when I saw a news story last night about a new graphic texting while driving commercial aimed at teens

I can't believe people text when they drive Talk about unnecessary and unsafe. Do people text these days while they're doing anything and everything? Twitter updates on your bms? Tks 4 sharing.
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Old 08-26-2009, 12:16 PM   #123
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I can't believe people text when they drive Talk about unnecessary and unsafe. Do people text these days while they're doing anything and everything? Twitter updates on your bms? Tks 4 sharing.



but i want to text and drive. therefore, laws that prevent me from doing what i want to do are tyranny.
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Old 08-26-2009, 12:32 PM   #124
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People could do whatever they want to do while driving if it was only going to potentially kill and injure them-if they want to die from their own stupidity well that's their choice. But since that's not realistically and statistically possible, well they can't and they shouldn't.

It's the old adage about your freedom extending the arm's length until you touch someone else, something like that.
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Old 08-26-2009, 04:30 PM   #125
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Drunk driving laws are in that way no different than red lights and stop sign laws.
I'd have to blow through 10 stop signs before I'd be fined the total amount as for one DUI though.
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I'd have to blow through 10 stop signs before I'd be fined the total amount as for one DUI though.
So don't do it then ?
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I'd have to blow through 10 stop signs before I'd be fined the total amount as for one DUI though.
If you're just arguing that the punishments for DUI is too harsh, I'd probably agree with you in many cases. But that doesn't make the laws themselves tyrannical nor somehow freedom infringing.
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I can't believe people text when they drive Talk about unnecessary and unsafe. Do people text these days while they're doing anything and everything? Twitter updates on your bms? Tks 4 sharing.
I have a friend that does this. I had to shout "PEDESTRIAN" once when she was making a left turn and texting. She's a smart girl, but I think that habit is beyond dumb.
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I'd have to blow through 10 stop signs before I'd be fined the total amount as for one DUI though.
So fines shouldn't be varied by the severity of their risk? Interesting...
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So fines shouldn't be varied by the severity of their risk? Interesting...

So you think blowing through stop signs and red lights don't have a severe risk unless the person doing so is drunk?
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So you think blowing through stop signs and red lights don't have a severe risk unless the person doing so is drunk?
Way to avoid the question.

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varied by the severity of their risk
Obviously I think both have risk.
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If you think fines should vary by severity of risk then speeding violations should result in higher fines than DUI.
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If you think fines should vary by severity of risk then speeding violations should result in higher fines than DUI.
right, because going 70 mph in a 65 zone is more dangerous than driving while shitfaced
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If you think fines should vary by severity of risk
"If"? That's a pretty common societal way of thinking. It's why murder and burglary have different jail times.



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then speeding violations should result in higher fines than DUI.
Wrong again...
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never thought i'd see the day where someone is defending drunk driving in order to get a rise out of people on FYM.

but i guess it's here.
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