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Old 06-15-2010, 12:32 PM   #16
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Ha, ha... I love your tactic, demonize Olbermann and then lump others with him.

Especially when most of us in here have denounced the man.
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Old 06-15-2010, 01:06 PM   #17
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Sometimes the fact that only about 60 miles separates me from the SC state line really, really frightens me. Sure, NC has some embarrassments (John Edwards; & Mary Easley with her questionable NC State job) - but I'll take them any day over the cluster that is SC.
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It does make you question the average voter, who clearly doesn't pay attention to an election unless large amounts of money are spent on a flashy ad campaign. And so it doesn't mean that the "best" candidate is nominated, per se; just the wealthiest. Absent wealth, it appears to be the candidate with the highest alphabetical ballot placement, as they say.
if there were paper ballots that could be reviewed
I might be inclined to agree with you.

But, this is one of those times when no recount is possible. The voting is done on those machines where they are recorded on a tape or disc

So unlike 2000 in FL, when we could look at the paper ballots, the up card and down card voting to see what the patterns were, there is no real record.


So here is some speculation
could this have been a test run? adjust some vote totals in a meaningless race, in a contest that would not even matter, everyone says DeMint would win hands down against any Democrat


with this test run, they now know that in any close election, an adjustment to put a candidate over to a win, can go undetected.

they can not steal a big election, where the polls show a 10% advantage,
but anything 3-5%, will work just fine.
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Old 06-17-2010, 11:31 AM   #19
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Here is another interview of the Democrats new nominee for the US Senate from South Carolina, Alvin Greene!

YouTube - Alvin Greene Interview with CNN Must See! 6-12-2010
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That was painful to watch.
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Old 06-17-2010, 02:00 PM   #21
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Keith Olbermann said the other night that despite all the controversy, he'd still vote for Greene over Demint. So rather than having a competent and articulate Senator whom he simply disagrees with on issues, KO would take an unemployed felonious pervert who can't string two sentences together- and to my knowledge hasn't in any way articulated what he believes in- just because he's a Democrat. That's pretty worrisome, and unfortunately I'm sure Olbermann's not alone.
Well he sure appears to be alone here.



Always going after the sick and the old of the herd, aren't you
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Old 06-17-2010, 02:03 PM   #22
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Here is another interview of the Democrats new nominee for the US Senate from South Carolina, Alvin Greene!
Strongbow.

Who seems happier about this guy's election? The Democrats or Republicans?

Implying that Democrats are eager to nominate felonious, unemployed individuals is a cheap argument.
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Implying that Democrats are eager to nominate felonious, unemployed individuals is a cheap argument.
Bingo.
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Strongbow and 2861 pooled their money together and planted him.

This is a confirmed rumor.
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LOL, BVS.

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Keith Olbermann said the other night that despite all the controversy, he'd still vote for Greene over Demint. So rather than having a competent and articulate Senator whom he simply disagrees with on issues, KO would take an unemployed felonious pervert who can't string two sentences together- and to my knowledge hasn't in any way articulated what he believes in- just because he's a Democrat. That's pretty worrisome, and unfortunately I'm sure Olbermann's not alone.
Isn't DeMint the guy who yelled, "YOU LIE!" at Obama during his address to Congress last year? Doesn't exactly scream "competent" and "articulate" to me, more like "rude" and "immature".

I fully agree you should never vote for someone simply because they tow the party line. Unfortunately South Carolina is facing the same problem many elections nowadays face-the lesser of two evils. And sometimes that explains why some people go along party lines. I'm not saying I agree with Olbermann here, mind you, because I don't-I'd actually be inclined to just not vote at all, much as it hurts me to say that, because this whole election just seems weird and not fully right and I wouldn't feel comfortable voting at all in that case. But for those who want to vote, well...

If it is indeed true, the charges about him and the porn, I hope that he gets pulled from the race and put in jail, because that's wrong and no politiicans should be associated with that crap. Outside of that, the whole situation is just very, very, very strange, and that's about all I can say regarding it.

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LOL, BVS.



Isn't DeMint the guy who yelled, "YOU LIE!" at Obama during his address to Congress last year? Doesn't exactly scream "competent" and "articulate" to me, more like "rude" and "immature".
No, that was Joe Wilson, but they're in the same league, no doubt.

DeMint has blurted out such crap as "Obama is responsible for terrorism" and has said many times that openly gay people, as well as couples living together out of wedlock, should not be allowed to be educators.

He has routinely lied about Obama's record on terrorism, about the stimulus bill, health care, the list goes on.

DeMint blocked the Legislative Transparency And Accountability Act in 2007, legislation that McConnell and Reid were working on together. He criticized Obama for leaving the TSA directorate open in the wake of the Christmas Day Bomber, but it was he who single handedly was blocking that and a whole host of other nominations.

DeMint is a rookie Senator blow hard, nowhere near articulate, intelligent and well versed in the issues. He is consistently the go to guy for a sound byte or something way off the deep end to fire up the base. Thats about it. He is not taken seriously by say, Orrin Hatch or Chuck Grassley or Lamar Alexander or Judd Gregg or any other Republican with influence in the Senate.

As for Olbermann, just like BVS said, almost everyone here has no use for him. Keith, I used to love him on ESPN, was good when he started his show, but he and Maddow, along with the rest of MSNBC minus Matthews, have turned into screeching, unfair lunatics.

Would I vote for DeMint? No.

Greene? No again.

I would write in my own name, or BVS' name or 2861U2's name or Moonlight Angel's name and well, I wouldn't be alone in thinking that is the best option in South Carolina!


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I fully agree you should never vote for someone simply because they tow the party line. Unfortunately South Carolina is facing the same problem many elections nowadays face-the lesser of two evils. And sometimes that explains why some people go along party lines. I'm not saying I agree with Olbermann here, mind you, because I don't-I'd actually be inclined to just not vote at all, much as it hurts me to say that, because this whole election just seems weird and not fully right and I wouldn't feel comfortable voting at all in that case. But for those who want to vote, well...
Still vote, you always want it to show up in the records as voted.

Write in your own name, and maybe if I and others do the same, you'll win.

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Outside of that, the whole situation is just very, very, very strange, and that's about all I can say regarding it.
Yes, leave it to South Carolina.
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Strongbow.

Who seems happier about this guy's election? The Democrats or Republicans?

Implying that Democrats are eager to nominate felonious, unemployed individuals is a cheap argument.
That's what he specializes in.
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No, that was Joe Wilson, but they're in the same league, no doubt.

DeMint has blurted out such crap as "Obama is responsible for terrorism" and has said many times that openly gay people, as well as couples living together out of wedlock, should not be allowed to be educators.

He has routinely lied about Obama's record on terrorism, about the stimulus bill, health care, the list goes on.

DeMint blocked the Legislative Transparency And Accountability Act in 2007, legislation that McConnell and Reid were working on together. He criticized Obama for leaving the TSA directorate open in the wake of the Christmas Day Bomber, but it was he who single handedly was blocking that and a whole host of other nominations.[/B]
Oh, that's right . My mistake then, I apologize to 2861U2 for that. Thank you for correcting me.

But from what you've shared there, my argument still seems to stand overall regarding DeMint, so...

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As for Olbermann, just like BVS said, almost everyone here has no use for him. Keith, I used to love him on ESPN, was good when he started his show, but he and Maddow, along with the rest of MSNBC minus Matthews, have turned into screeching, unfair lunatics.[/B]
I do still watch his show, because there are things he says I do agree with (I could very easily relate to his rants about the healthcare system-when his dad was suffering, I knew full well what he was dealing with and could sympathize), but yes, he definitely has his biases, too, no argument there, and I don't always agree with everything he says. Like this issue, for instance, as stated.

I dunno if I'd say Maddow's lumped into that category, she generally seems pretty calm to me. Sure, she's had her argumentative moments, but I wouldn't say she's abrasive to listen to. But that's just me.

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Would I vote for DeMint? No.

Greene? No again.

I would write in my own name, or BVS' name or 2861U2's name or Moonlight Angel's name and well, I wouldn't be alone in thinking that is the best option in South Carolina!


Still vote, you always want it to show up in the records as voted.

Write in your own name, and maybe if I and others do the same, you'll win.
LOL. That's an excellent point, though, yes, that's definitely an option, too. The voters should use the "write-in" option. Would be interesting to see what came of that.

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I'm sorry, but Republican plant or not, that this imbecile would win the Democratic primary in South Carolina really has to be put at the feet of the Democratic voters in that state. (I'm assuming they don't have an open primary?). They should be held accountable for failing to do their homework.
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They should be held accountable for failing to do their homework.
SC is about 50th in the country in education... they don't do homework.
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