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Old 07-22-2011, 01:54 PM   #1
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Terrorism in Oslo

There was an explosion in downtown Oslo, Norway and a shooting at a youth camp on an island west of the capital. Norwegian police believe they are related. As of 1:53 EST, seven are dead and two are wounded. According to some tweets on Twitter, Helpers of the Global Jihad are claiming responsibility, but some say it might be Do It Yourself terrorism. Also, the shooter at the youth camp was said to be a blonde Norwegian.

The Daily Telegraph is updating its website every minute or so about this:

Oslo explosion: live coverage - Telegraph

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Here's information on the shooter at Utoya and what group he could be part of:

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19.00 London-based Exclusive Analysis risk consultancy said the man in the Utoya incident apparently infiltrated the party gathering on the pretence that he had been sent by police as a security measure in the wake of the Oslo explosion.

As such, it is likely he was ethnically Norwegian. This could indicate the involvement of a far-right group rather than an Islamist group, though it is also the case that the Labour Party would be a favourable target for Islamist groups due to its role in authorising Norwegian military deployments in Afghanistan.

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Now tweets are saying the Helpers of the Global Jihad said they did claim responsibility, and to wait for the official claim.
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PM Stoltenberg is speaking on TV now apparently?? though I'm not finding any live coverage online...
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Ugh. One person in custody.

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in 24 - 48 hours there should be better information

this is one of those cases, where the rush to be first can easily get wrong information circulated.

the pictures I have seen look terrible, sorry for all the loss of life and injuries.
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PM Stoltenberg is speaking on TV now apparently?? though I'm not finding any live coverage online...
So far I found this about what he said:

Our answer is more democracy, more openness to show that we will not be stopped by this kind of violence. At the same time we shouldn't be naive, we should understand that violence can attack our society - we've seen that today."
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Cowardly attacks. Norway is an easy target.
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This is taken from my Twitter feed and so it's all unconfirmed but a picture is forming no matter; Police believe it to be the one guy.. and look I hate to type this, but... sigh... he's a white dude, typically 'Nordic' captured not wounded by all accounts...

To me, this smells like a McVeigh mixed with the VA Tech shooting. That latter part was the focus... Set off the car bomb, and remember this is during a national holiday when there are not so many people around to begin with. The Distraction. Then take the mere 40minute trip to this island, ie. the easy target while the authorities, SWATs, Police EMS are busy with the city carnage.... it took ages for them to get SF onto that island...

Norway attacks - live coverage | World news | guardian.co.uk

Vile. The latter incident reminds me of the mass spree shooting in Tasmania a few years back.... just sans the initial bomb..

Port Arthur massacre (Australia) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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vile.

incredibly sorry for everyone affected.
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This is taken from my Twitter feed and so it's all unconfirmed but a picture is forming no matter; Police believe it to be the one guy.. and look I hate to type this, but... sigh... he's a white dude, typically 'Nordic' captured not wounded by all accounts...
I don't quite understand. Why do you hate to type that he is a white dude?
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Police believe it to be the one guy.. and look I hate to type this, but... sigh... he's a white dude, typically 'Nordic' captured not wounded by all accounts...

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Are some upset that this ISN'T the work of an Islamic terrorist?
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I think you're both misreading that (or at least hope you are).
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I think you're both misreading that (or at least hope you are).
I hope so, but I just finished reading comments on CNN.com where people were upset and calling this a cover up
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Are some upset that this ISN'T the work of an Islamic terrorist?
Maybe people think this was a 'homegrown' terrorist? In that case, i could see how that would trouble people (in fact personally i think people being 'recruited' from within Norway is more complex and worrying than some outside force carrying this off).
But if people are just complaining about this being a 'cover up', then that is pretty weird

Anyway, my condolences to everyone hurt by this attack. It saddens me that we live in an age where people still think killing innocents is the right thing to do...
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I hope so, but I just finished reading comments on CNN.com where people were upset and calling this a cover up
I hate typing it because there will be a sense of "oh really just a local nut then" amongst the FAUX salivators...
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