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Old 07-22-2011, 06:40 PM   #16
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I hate typing it because there will be a sense of "oh really just a local nut then" amongst the FAUX salivators...
if by faux you mean fox news, you've badly misjudged this forum.
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Old 07-22-2011, 06:45 PM   #17
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if by faux you mean fox news, you've badly misjudged this forum.
How so??

.. yeah well talk about misreading... NO. I meant outwith this forum... I meant generally, out there, beyond these 'ere walls your usual suspects won't have quite the story they thought was unfolding...

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Old 07-22-2011, 07:28 PM   #18
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The choice of targets seems rather strange and unexpected, regardless of whether extreme right or extreme Islamist connections are being considered. (I'm under the impression that the extreme right in Norway consists primarily of xenophobic elements, but I don't know much about Scandinavian politics, so please correct me if I'm wrong.) I have also seen 'loony loner' theories put forward, but a car bomb that powerful...again, would seem highly unexpected. But like deep said, no one's really going to know anything for another 24 hours or so anyway.

I haven't yet been able to make it through a description of how the youth camp shootings were carried out without turning away from the text in disgust. Fucking sick bastard.
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Old 07-22-2011, 07:47 PM   #19
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There's an article up on Wikipedia already about the alleged suspect.
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Old 07-22-2011, 08:02 PM   #20
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(I'm under the impression that the extreme right in Norway consists primarily of xenophobic elements, but I don't know much about Scandinavian politics, so please correct me if I'm wrong.) .

In Scandinavian countries there has been some degree of a backlash against immigration in recent years. For example, the right wing True Finns party had its most successful election in years (ever?) in the 2011 Finnish elections.

On the other hand, the European extreme right in general is split on the question of who or what constitutes the biggest enemy of the white race is: some tend to be motivated by xenophobia against Asians/Muslims and/or Africans, others are anti-semites who argue that the war on Terror is a put-up job by Israel, that Jews control the media and the banking and political systems behind the scenes, and similar warmed up Protocols of Elders of Zion tall tales.

Intelligence services have become aware of links between some European rightwingers and Jihadists in recent years. Note, I am not suggesting this is of relevance to this case - obviously, it is too early to say.
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. . . it's awful no matter who is responsible ~ thoughts and prayers to all of those affected . . .
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Old 07-22-2011, 10:12 PM   #22
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Police say at least 80 killed in shooting at Norway youth camp

Los Angeles Times | July 22, 2011 | 7:03 p.m.

Police say at least 80 killed in shooting at Norway youth camp, according to the Associated Press, marking a significant increase from earlier reports.
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Old 07-22-2011, 10:33 PM   #23
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That's worse than 9/11, adjusted for population.

Population of US = 308,000,000
Number killed on 9/11 = 3,000

Ratio: 0.001%


Population of Norway = 4,937,900
Number killed = 80

Ratio: 0.0016%
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Yea let's leave ratios out of the discussion... no need to compare mass murders.


Terrible, terrible tragedy that is only getting worse.
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Hold up. So they're saying one guy shot 84 people to death? How is that possible? I don't think I even want to know the answer to that.

My god, what a horrific story. I don't even know what to think.

And apparently the majority of them were between 16 and 22 years old. My god. So sorry for all the families affected by this. Fuck.
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Hold up. So they're saying one guy shot 84 people to death? How is that possible? I don't think I even want to know the answer to that.
They were on a small island and he was posing as a policeman.
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Well, yeah, I know that.

Nevermind. I don't know why I'm in this part of the forum. Peace.
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I am just horrified to wake up to the shooting news. That is so incredibly awful.
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If the guy is convicted.

He will do some serious time.

21 years, the maximum.
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Wow...thoughts and prayers to those in Oslo who are affected...very, very sad.
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