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Old 07-16-2016, 03:11 PM   #46
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Of course, they're haven't been any ...I' m not stupid.... The he odds are still in my favor.

Glad I don't have any interest going to say Jerusalem... that might give me pause.
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Old 07-16-2016, 03:15 PM   #47
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I have lived in So California my whole life
I used to go to Mexico quite often,
awhile back, I gave it up, risk vs reward ratio had shifted too muh
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Old 07-16-2016, 03:17 PM   #48
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An hey, here in NYC, for instance, especially in the more heavily used commercial areas where infrastructure depreciates faster... I could get hit by a exploding manhole cover, or just with heavy traffic, and some impatient drivers get side swiped or worse. Have had a couple of near misses. S o I try to be more careful than not!
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Old 07-16-2016, 03:20 PM   #49
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Well, Paris is not Mexico, so far.

That why saidc earlier it would have to get loit worse in Paris, before I'd hesitate.

Gotta go, later.
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Old 07-16-2016, 03:23 PM   #50
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false comparison,



We are not talking about risk vs no risk at all



we are talking about choosing lessor risk vs higher risk



a car could crash into my house and kill me, therefore I should sit in the middle of the street?


Speaking of false comparisons...

I'd suggest you take a look at murder rates in France and California. While these high profile terror attacks are absolutely horrible, chances are pretty slim that you'll find yourself in the middle of it. Not impossible, just as it's not impossible getting shot in the streets on a grocery run at home in a wrong time at the wrong place scenario.

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and if you were there this week you very well may have been at Nice for the Bastille Day fireworks or taken in the Eagles of Death Metal Show or been on that train. Just luck for you and your wife, many vacationers were not so lucky.
Or I could have stayed home and gotten in a fatal car accident. Or shot in a mass shooting. Must've been just lucky that I went to France instead of staying in the States.
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that is a very poor argument, to try and help you rational thinking in the evaluation risk factors will take more time than I have right now.
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that is a very poor argument, to try and help you rational thinking in the evaluation risk factors will take more time than I have right now.





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Or I could have stayed home and gotten in a fatal car accident. Or shot in a mass shooting. Must've been just lucky that I went to France instead of staying in the States.
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that is a very poor argument, to try and help you rational thinking in the evaluation risk factors will take more time than I have right now.
You are a poor argument.

France has a major problem. No doubt. Odds are still slim.

The US has a major gun problem. Should Europeans not visit?
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I'd say the chances of being shot whilst on holiday in the US are just as high as the chances of being killed by a terrorist attack in Europe, if not higher.
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Which was unknown at the time of initial reports of events in Turkey. Given the frequent terrorist attacks in Turkey in the recent past, I assumed this was another.
the word "military" is right in the headline...
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that is a very poor argument, to try and help you rational thinking in the evaluation risk factors will take more time than I have right now.



If I have a free travel voucher to a European country and I'm worried about terrorism, France will be bumped down farther down my list.

Quick mental risk assessment


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What's the probability of getting killed by a terrorist if you travel by plane on September 11?
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and if you were there this week you very well may have been at Nice for the Bastille Day fireworks or taken in the Eagles of Death Metal Show or been on that train. Just luck for you and your wife, many vacationers were not so lucky.
This is stupid.

There are thousands of Bastille Day celebrations throughout France every year. Only one, in one year, has been attacked. The odds of you even being at the attacked celebrations, let alone harmed, are vanishingly slim.

There are thousands of live music events throughout France every week, surely extending into the millions per year. The odds of you even being at the attacked concert, let alone harmed, are vanishingly slim.

There are thousands of railway services throughout France every week, definitely extending into the millions per year. The odds of you even being on the attacked train, let alone harmed, are vanishingly slim.

So no, it's not good luck to have avoided attack. It's massively, implausibly, shittingly bad luck to be harmed in an attack. And bad luck will sometimes befall you, but you can't live your life like you're going to be victim to an extremely rare event.
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