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Old 02-22-2010, 10:35 PM   #61
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Probably not. This is FYM - pretty much every thread turns into something completely different, usually involving the same arguments and the same individuals.
Tell me about it!
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I made a thread that was meant to discuss etiquette and male-female relationships, and now we're talking about religion? I don't get it. I mean, I did read the whole thread, but I still don't know how religion got into this topic.
Because somehow religion gets into every thread, I guess it's an obsession of sorts. Maybe we should start a contest to see how far of an unrelated stretch we can create with religion being dragged into it.
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Old 02-23-2010, 12:22 PM   #63
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A page maybe?
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I meant more of an unrelated thread topic. Like jock itch, or something like that. Maybe athlete's foot. Somehow that has to involve religion.
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I made a thread that was meant to discuss etiquette and male-female relationships
Negatory, purpleoscar already explained to us why you started this thread:

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The only reason this thread was brought up was just to bring some argument that the teacher is anti-women in some way.
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^Wow, I missed that one. He's inside Pearl's head?

All that's missing is some random photos from diamond. He must be busy fighting rappers with Mitt.
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I meant more of an unrelated thread topic. Like jock itch, or something like that. Maybe athlete's foot. Somehow that has to involve religion.
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If you pray jock itch will go away.
Dang, you're good!


Perhaps we should get a seperate thread for the religious fundies so they can talk amongst themselves there instead of bringing each thread off topic?
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I'm a religious fundie now?
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One thing I do know, you are flat out wrong to say that I felt the teacher is anti-woman. How the hell does rejecting old-fashioned etiquette make me believe women shouldn't be treated with respect?
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I'm a religious fundie now?
I wouldn't say you are a religious fundie, but somehow equating ANYTHING in this discussion to religion is something I thought only religious fundies could do up until now, so I'm not really sure.
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I wouldn't say you are a religious fundie, but somehow equating ANYTHING in this discussion to religion is something I thought only religious fundies could do up until now, so I'm not really sure.
I think it goes to show how sucked up into neo-con thinking this poster has become. Here is someone who admittingly wasn't raised religious but has been sucked into a fundamental mindset. The cause has overshadowed any real logic or personal experience.
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One thing I do know, you are flat out wrong to say that I felt the teacher is anti-woman.
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How the hell does rejecting old-fashioned etiquette make me believe women shouldn't be treated with respect?
I'm not sure what you mean by that question. I don't think that you "believe women shouldn't be treated with respect" because you are "rejecting old-fashioned etiquette". I'm sure you believe women should be treated with respect. My opinion is that the article was posted because you were bothered by what you think is sexist behaviour by the teacher. Especially when I read this:

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But is teaching gender-specific etiquette perpetuating what some consider sexist traditions?
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I'm not sure I would like to be treated like this. On a date, definitely, but on daily basis? No, because I am not a damsel in distress. Yes, I would like to be treated with respect by the male species, but not to the point where I cannot do things by myself.
I believe the point of the teacher was to find gross and obvious examples to teach thickhead grade 10 boys. That's why he didn't do it right at the beginning of the course as an agenda. The subtleties you prefer probably won't work for those thickheads until they grow up. Also the girls and parents are happy which shows that the behaviour was probably much worse before and they are glad for any improvement. I often found classroom environments like junior high or high school to be like prisons or zoos the way many guys behaved and even more extreme measures than old-fashioned etiquette had to be used.

My favorite teacher reaction though would have to be this jerk who got up to the front of the class and pulled his pants down and mooned the class. The teacher bent his arm behind his back and threw him out of the class by opening the door with his head. x1,000,000. The teacher got a big reprimand but the student was so over the top consistently everyday it still felt justified. There was no way you could concentrate in that class with that guy acting up.

Anyways if you feel I misunderstood your opinion then I'm sorry. I'm used to FYM posts being there precisely because of some controversy involving racism, sexism, homophobia, socialism vs. capitalism, right vs. left etc, etc.
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I think it goes to show how sucked up into neo-con thinking this poster has become. Here is someone who admittingly wasn't raised religious but has been sucked into a fundamental mindset. The cause has overshadowed any real logic or personal experience.
How did you know? You sound like a conspiracy theorist. All I am is thankful for what Christianity has done for us despite it's flaws. In fact belief in God created a lot of courage for people to fight tyrants precisely because God was above them. Can't you see the practical value of a constitution by God so man can't fiddle with it? That shouldn't make me a fundie to point out practical uses of religion. If I believed the Bible literally then I would be a fundamentalist.

It's possible for religious and non-religious to agree on ethics without agreeing on whether it's man-made or God-made ethics. It's also possible for people to be modern and go to Church. There are left-wing people in Churches, just so you know.

Another reason why this post is inaccurate is because I don't have a problem with school replacing or improving on what the Church does. Adding a philosophy course to high school would remove the debate about teaching religion in biology because a metaphysics/philosophy class can include agnostic views as well.

Dostoyevsky warned about nihlism and look at how the 20th century turned out. Secular institutions can have their bad reputation as well, so PhilsFan's need to want to slap me is pointless. Why not get slapped into secular Gulag tourism.

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Christianity has also had its hand in repressing groups of people, and making people toe the line out of fear. Surely you, who is constantly decrying narcissism, can recognize that for what it is? Hardly in line with your Buddhist leanings, I would think. Oh, you're a mass of contradictions.
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