elevated_u2_fan
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You know who else had lists????? Hitler!
so does Santa Claus... Coincidence? You be the judge.
You know who else had lists????? Hitler!
Fascist states and socialist dictatorships are both totalatarian systems, and to that extent they may have a lot in common. But philosophically they are not the same at all.
I'm afraid a serious discussion is impossible.
I'm afraid a serious discussion is impossible. Shame, as it's an interesting subject and a great part of 20th Century history. And as they say, those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Mussollini, the father of fascism, was a socialist.
Even after splitting with the party organization he declared, "Whatever happens you won't lose me, twelve years of my life in the party ought to be sufficient guarantee of my socialist faith. Socialism is in my blood." Also saying, "I am and shall remain a socialist and my convictions will never change. They are bred into my very bones."
“At one point during Khrushchev’s visit, the Soviet Premier boasted to the Agriculture Secretary that Benson’s own grandchildren would live under Communism. Benson replied tartly that he expected to do all in his power to assure that Khrushchev’s and all other grandchildren would live under freedom. The Communist leader then responded in essence, according to Benson’s personal account: "You Americans are so gullible. No, you won’t accept communism outright, but we’ll keep feeding you small doses of socialism until you’ll finally wake up and find you already have communism.” (Soviet Premier of Russia Nikita Khrushchev, to Secretary of Agriculture, Ezra Taft Benson 1959.)
That causes some here to call those who oppose potentail new programs-names.
Mussollini, the father of fascism, was a socialist.
Even after splitting with the party organization he declared, "Whatever happens you won't lose me, twelve years of my life in the party ought to be sufficient guarantee of my socialist faith. Socialism is in my blood." Also saying, "I am and shall remain a socialist and my convictions will never change. They are bred into my very bones."
I'm afraid a serious discussion is impossible. Shame, as it's an interesting subject and a great part of 20th Century history. And as they say, those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
That said, most Americans sense that too much govt intervention is a step in the wrong direction-
When you find an ACTUAL case of this, please let us know.
ACTUAL? Perhaps there are not actual instances, but it is inferred that ppl who oppose certain programs are stupid, paranoid, uncompassionate, selfish, ..yadie yadie yadie..
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Can someone explain to me - using logic and facts (OMG!!!) what is wrong with Universal Healthcare - is it just the price point? And also, why pushing for universal healthcare is somehow related to Hitler, who as far as I can tell, was adamantly opposed to any sort of health care for large segments of the German population.
Unless that intervention is on the side you support. The Patriot Act, who can marry who, who gets to decide who has babies, who's required to wear helmets, etc. That's what so fun to watch: the folks who champion "government intervention" until they think it'll affect them, then they get a little uncomfortable.
ACTUAL? Perhaps there are not actual instances, but it is inferred that ppl who oppose certain programs are stupid, paranoid, incompassionate, selfish, ..yadie yadie yadie..
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Mussollini, the father of fascism, was a socialist.
Taken directly from:
"Liberal Fascism: the secret history of the American left"
One other thing I'd suggest. Could we state the sources for our information, and furthermore could we try to avoid sources that are obviously partisan (like the one above). I promise not to cite Mother Jones, if INDY and co promise not cite folks like the author of this book.
So far everything I've said has been based on my student's 9th grade World History textbook.
9th Grade Textbook = Liberal Propaganda. Sorry, Sean.
yes, we dont want to have to pay for your healthcare, we would rather you overpay for shitty coverage so our special interest groups that payed us off will get rich. shut the fuck up and get back to work!
Taken directly from:
"Liberal Fascism: the secret history of the American left"
by Jonah Goldberg
The quote is never sourced and I can't find it anywhere else.
If we keep using sources like this and refuse to use critical thinking, then you are correct, discussion is impossible.
Unless that intervention is on the side you support. The Patriot Act, who can marry who, who gets to decide who has babies, who's required to wear helmets, etc. That's what so fun to watch: the folks who champion "government intervention" until they think it'll affect them, then they get a little uncomfortable.