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Old 11-18-2011, 07:28 PM   #271
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Federal Spending Is Growing Faster Than Federal Revenue

I see revenue that was raising about the same rate as spending until 2007. I then see spending EXPLODING since 2007 and revenues dropping due to the recession.

Restore spending to 2007 levels and I'd more than support raising tax revenues to begin paying down the debt. I don't support raising anyone's taxes to fund the frivolous spending of the past 5 years.
The Heritage Foundation? That's your source? What happened, did all the other sources actually include the wars and not support your theory?
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Old 11-18-2011, 09:22 PM   #272
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If you make the argument that we need to give the rich tax breaks so that they can invest in the economy ... then they damn well better invest in the economy.

They have not. Thus, their tax breaks should end.
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Old 11-19-2011, 05:46 PM   #273
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Restore spending to 2007 levels and I'd more than support raising tax revenues to begin paying down the debt.


i think it's great you'd support raising tax revenues. i also think that a massive simplification of the tax code would raise more revenues, and i think this is an idea popular with everyone.

however, this also means you don't get your war with Iran.
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Old 11-19-2011, 07:44 PM   #274
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however, this also means you don't get your war with Iran.
Suppose Iran procures a nuclear weapon. What other options are there?
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Old 11-19-2011, 10:05 PM   #275
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some say bush liberated iraq. I say, he liberated our wealthy.
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Suppose Iran procures a nuclear weapon. What other options are there?

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/15/op...nuclearprogram
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I'd be supportive of this
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Old 11-20-2011, 06:38 AM   #278
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Contain/constrain. They're not going to use the fucking thing. An attack/war is by far the dumbest way to handle it. Don't believe the hype - Iran, for all their bluster, are supremely rational. Containment and a mini-MAD will work just fine.
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Old 11-21-2011, 06:01 PM   #279
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Christian Science Monitor, Nov. 21
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The Dow Jones industrial average lost almost 250 points after the special committee of Congress assigned to come up with $1.2 trillion in deficit cuts over 10 years indicated that there would be no deal.

The supercommittee stalemate is supposed to trigger automatic spending cuts across the government, but there were already hints that Congress would find a way around them. Analysts say that could lead to another downgrade of the US credit rating.
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Suppose Iran procures a nuclear weapon. What other options are there?
Diplomatic isolation, funnel money to the opposition and hope they get the military on their side the next time around.

Otherwise it's a European problem.
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Otherwise it's a European problem.
If Iran, who quite often associates with terrorists, gets a nuke, it's not going to stay just a "European problem" for long.
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Since we're all quoting Newt now:

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-Newt Gingrich during a GOP debate Aug 11th.
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Suppose Iran procures a nuclear weapon. What other options are there?
oh i'm sure there's loads of other options... just look at how our leaders swiftly pulled the plug on wikileaks/Assange basically showing that they could shut down/cripple any operation, bring down governments even (look at the impact of credit ratings right now), by withdrawing financial/credit services alone if they really wanted to...

i mean, really, when you think about it, they could do that in any situation... they could even use it for good to shut down crime networks, drug rings, etc., but weirdly choose not to...
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