so, the terrorists win... - Page 6 - U2 Feedback

Go Back   U2 Feedback > Lypton Village > Free Your Mind
Click Here to Login
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 12-30-2009, 12:08 PM   #76
Refugee
 
A stor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: U.S.A. East Coast
Posts: 2,464
Local Time: 11:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MoodyJ View Post
I still don't understand why these restrictions only apply during the last 60-90 minutes of flight time. What about the other 6+ hours or so?

I understand the need for enhanced security, however adding these latest measures just makes the thought of flying completely unbearable. I can easily see where the only people deterred from flying will be regular travelers. Terrorists won't care, they'll simply adjust their plans accordingly.
I agree. Sadly, these terrorist have come up with methods of killing. None of us would even think of. Is it true, that the man in question, didn't have a passport and was allowed to board the plane?
__________________

__________________
A stor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2009, 01:01 PM   #77
Refugee
 
AliEnvy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 2,320
Local Time: 11:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigjohn2441 View Post
it's the officer's descretion.
Exactly.

Similar to a regular cop who may or may not give you a full speeding ticket when you get caught depending on your previous record and how honest etc. you are when he approaches.
__________________

__________________
AliEnvy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2009, 05:46 PM   #78
Blue Crack Addict
 
MrsSpringsteen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 24,998
Local Time: 06:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by A stor View Post
Is it true, that the man in question, didn't have a passport and was allowed to board the plane?

Allegedly that's true, and he allegedly had some other man with him who told the person at the counter that he didn't have a passport but he had to get on the plane. That's what at least one eyewitness said. He bought a one way ticket, paid for in cash and supposedly had no luggage.

It certainly appears that there were multiple failures in that situation. But gee, the system worked. Oh yeah, that statement was taken out of context..
__________________
MrsSpringsteen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2009, 06:33 PM   #79
She's the One
 
martha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Orange County and all over the goddamn place
Posts: 42,338
Local Time: 03:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrsSpringsteen View Post
Allegedly that's true, and he allegedly had some other man with him who told the person at the counter that he didn't have a passport but he had to get on the plane.
Are you fucking kidding me? He had no passport and somebody let him get on the plane? WTF????
__________________
martha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2009, 07:01 PM   #80
Rock n' Roll Doggie
Band-aid
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: The American Resistance
Posts: 4,754
Local Time: 05:21 AM
Quote:
"As I’ve watched the events of the last few days it is clear once again that President Obama is trying to pretend we are not at war. He seems to think if he has a low-key response to an attempt to blow up an airliner and kill hundreds of people, we won’t be at war. He seems to think if he gives terrorists the rights of Americans, lets them lawyer up and reads them their Miranda rights, we won’t be at war. He seems to think if we bring the mastermind of Sept. 11 to New York, give him a lawyer and trial in civilian court, we won’t be at war.

“He seems to think if he closes Guantanamo and releases the hard-core Al Qaeda-trained terrorists still there, we won’t be at war. He seems to think if he gets rid of the words, ‘war on terror,’ we won’t be at war. But we are at war and when President Obama pretends we aren’t, it makes us less safe. Why doesn’t he want to admit we’re at war? It doesn’t fit with the view of the world he brought with him to the Oval Office. It doesn’t fit with what seems to be the goal of his presidency — social transformation — the restructuring of American society. President Obama’s first object and his highest responsibility must be to defend us against an enemy that knows we are at war."

-- Dick Cheney
Once again Cheney nails it.
__________________
INDY500 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2009, 07:40 PM   #81
Blue Crack Supplier
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 30,343
Local Time: 06:21 AM
Once again, Cheney proves himself a blowhard lackey for the GOP.

Someone lit his balls on fire on an airplane? WHY AREN'T WE BOMBING SHIT YET???
__________________
phillyfan26 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2009, 09:10 PM   #82
Resident Photo Buff
Forum Moderator
 
Diemen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Somewhere in middle America
Posts: 13,238
Local Time: 05:21 AM
Yeah, the value of Cheney's opinion on what a presidential administration should do is pretty much non-existent to me.
__________________
Diemen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2009, 11:01 PM   #83
Blue Crack Addict
 
Liesje's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: In the dog house
Posts: 19,557
Local Time: 06:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ntalwar View Post
How about travelers who are ultra-cooperative and polite, and get a secondary search anyway for no good reason?
This is how my brother in law is. Not only is he Malaysian (looks/race), but he's not a US citizen (though did get a green card now after getting married) and he suspects he is also targeted because of his age, since his parents don't have the same problems when they fly together. He's a really good sport about it, but it means that whenever someone brings them to the airport, they need to be there ANOTHER extra hour early just in case.
__________________
Liesje is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2009, 11:49 PM   #84
Blue Crack Supplier
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 30,343
Local Time: 06:21 AM
I have a friend at college from there. When he first came here this past summer, they nearly deported him because he had his name shortened by the US government, which meant it didn't match up with his identification from home.
__________________
phillyfan26 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2009, 11:56 PM   #85
Blue Crack Supplier
 
coolian2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Hamilton (No longer STD capital of NZ)
Posts: 42,920
Local Time: 12:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Liesje View Post
This is how my brother in law is. Not only is he Malaysian (looks/race), but he's not a US citizen (though did get a green card now after getting married) and he suspects he is also targeted because of his age, since his parents don't have the same problems when they fly together. He's a really good sport about it, but it means that whenever someone brings them to the airport, they need to be there ANOTHER extra hour early just in case.
last time i flew i got a secondary search at the gate because i was using my passport as id on a domestic us flight. i was unimpressed (especially given how many times i'd passed security checkpoints in the 30 hours before that), but i could at least see why. it took everything in me to not start quizzing the guy going through my stuff if he even knew what he was looking for.

now the black woman who ended up sitting across the aisle from me, using her tennessee driver's license? i can she why she was pissed off.
__________________
coolian2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2009, 01:20 AM   #86
Blue Crack Supplier
 
coolian2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Hamilton (No longer STD capital of NZ)
Posts: 42,920
Local Time: 12:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by INDY500 View Post
Once again Cheney nails it.
we've got an enemy we can't really name, and we can't really place them except they're all over that muslim part of the world.


it's perfect for fear mongering.
__________________
coolian2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2009, 01:33 AM   #87
Blue Crack Distributor
 
VintagePunk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: In a dry and waterless place
Posts: 55,732
Local Time: 06:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by INDY500 View Post
Once again Cheney nails it.
Once again Cheney attempts to use widespread fear-mongering to beat the citizens of US into submission. Reelect the GOP, then you'll be safe!

__________________
VintagePunk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2009, 02:22 AM   #88
Rock n' Roll Doggie
Band-aid
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: The American Resistance
Posts: 4,754
Local Time: 05:21 AM
__________________
INDY500 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2009, 02:30 AM   #89
Blue Crack Supplier
 
coolian2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Hamilton (No longer STD capital of NZ)
Posts: 42,920
Local Time: 12:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by INDY500 View Post
i agree with this cartoon, not only does the white house need to be aware of so many security breakdowns, but so does any port allowing travel anywhere in the world, not just to the united states.

but that's not what it means, is it?
__________________
coolian2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2009, 02:38 AM   #90
Rock n' Roll Doggie
Band-aid
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: The American Resistance
Posts: 4,754
Local Time: 05:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by coolian2 View Post
we've got an enemy we can't really name
They call themselves jihadists. Works for me.

Quote:
and we can't really place them except they're all over that muslim part of the world.
Don't forget posh London neighborhoods and Texas military bases.
Quote:
it's perfect for fear mongering.
It's also wildly politically incorrect which is presumably why some pretend so hard that the threat doesn't exist.
__________________

__________________
INDY500 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
U2's christmas cards 2009: Win a t-shirt or album+single Regina O'Numb Everything You Know Is Wrong 1 12-31-2009 12:13 PM
The 2009 Formula One Thread. Accept No Imitations. cobl04 Put 'Em Under Pressure 86 10-21-2009 08:26 AM
Win A Britney Spears-style Wedding ABEL Free Your Mind Archive 20 03-04-2004 12:49 PM
Your Opinion: *SHOULD* U2 Win A Grammy For Album Of The Year For ATYCLB? Michael Griffiths Everything You Know Is Wrong Archive 29 12-13-2001 09:17 PM
Question Regarding Terrorists 80sU2isBest Everything You Know Is Wrong Archive 38 10-11-2001 03:54 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:21 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Design, images and all things inclusive copyright © Interference.com