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Old 04-13-2011, 05:51 PM   #451
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I meant 'mule' in the sense of anything: drugs, weapons, whatever. If they're going to be screening people, it would seem a fairly large hole in the process if all you had to do was bring a kid along with you to hide stuff. It didn't have to be a bomb. Could've been a blade or what have you.
Yeah, next thing you know people will bring their kids to a concert so they can get into the ellipse.

Oh, wait. Wrong thread. Wrong year. Oops.
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Old 04-14-2011, 04:41 AM   #452
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RE: TSA

The terrorist plan all along was to coerce Americans into becoming sexual offenders, molesters, and victims of their own fear and paranoia.
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Old 04-14-2011, 10:42 AM   #453
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If the TSA's explicit policy is to not conduct thorough pat-downs on children under the age of 13... that would appear to me to be a thorough pat down. The woman was in the child's waistband and on her chest. She told then she would put her hand in the waistband and be in "sensitive areas". Don't see what can be more thorough than that, based upon what we've already seen and read about since this pat down thing went into effect. Unless they're going to say that "thorough" would mean a strip search or a body cavity search
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Old 04-14-2011, 08:27 PM   #454
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You'd think common sense would come into play at some point. That poor kid.


Common sense would be refreshing.
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Old 06-27-2011, 10:09 AM   #455
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The Transportation Security Administration defended on Sunday the actions of its airport security officers at a northwest Florida airport after the agency came under criticism for requiring a 95-year-old woman to remove her adult diaper during a pat down.

The incident took place June 18 at Northwest Florida Regional Airport near Pensacola, Fla., while Jean Weber of Destin, Fla., escorted her mother, who suffers from leukemia, to Michigan to live with family members before moving into an assisted living facility, CNN reports.

"She had a blood transfusion the week before, just to bolster up her strength for this travel," Weber told CNN.

Weber didn't identify her mother to the cable news network.

While going through the airport's security checkpoint, a TSA officer performed a pat down on Weber's mother, Weber told CNN. After an officer felt something "suspicious" on her leg, Weber's mother was taken into a private room for further inspection. The officer then told Weber that her mother's Depend undergarment was soiled and prevented a complete pat down from being done. The officer asked for it to be removed, which Weber did in a restroom.

"It's something I couldn't imagine happening on American soil," Weber told the Panama City News-Herald Friday. "Here is my mother, 95 years old, 105 pounds, barely able to stand, and then this."

Weber told CNN her mother worked as a nurse for 65 years and "was very calm" during the inspection.

Weber told the News-Herald that she filed a complaint with the Department of Homeland Security soon after the incident. She talked with a department employee June 22, who told her that the security officers followed their procedures during the search. The TSA released a statement Sunday to CNN:

"While every person and item must be screened before entering the secure boarding area, TSA works with passengers to resolve security alarms in a respectful and sensitive manner," the federal agency said. "We have reviewed the circumstances involving this screening and determined that our officers acted professionally and according to proper procedure."

Earlier, Sari Koshetz, a spokeswoman for the Transportation Security Administration in Miami, told the News-Herald there was a reason why security procedures were the same for everyone.

"TSA cannot exempt any group from screening because we know from intelligence that there are terrorists out there that would then exploit that vulnerability," Koshetz told the newspaper.
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The TSA is just following orders. It's up to us, the reasonable American travelers to demand that this is enough and it's not making us any safer. I don't blame TSA employees for this stuff. I blame reactionary Americans who are too paranoid and too insecure themselves.

Terrorists will kill people. It will happen. It will probably happen on an American flight again at some point. We need to start to accept that death is a possibility in our everyday lives, by accident or on purpose. Bush (and I think Clinton, too) did an injustice to Americans by setting this "zero tolerance for terrorism deaths" standard. If you try to guaranty that no American dies by a terrorist's hand, 6-year-olds and 95-year-olds will be suspects in that kind of police state. I wish we were more mature as a country to accept some death.

Heaven help the first politician who tries to tell America some hard facts.
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Old 06-27-2011, 12:41 PM   #457
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TSA employees are in the same bucket as all common law enforcement officers: dumb, hired help.
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Old 06-28-2011, 08:29 AM   #458
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Meanwhile



"Raising Hope" star Garret Dillahunt has managed to walk through security at a local airport with a small knife. On Monday, June 27, the actor playing Burt Chance on the FOX sitcom posted a photo of the knife on Twitter and wrote, "Oops. Walked right through airport security with this little number."

Garret was not arrested for bringing the banned item into the airport, but fellow actor Rainn Wilson thought otherwise. In his response to Garret's tweet, Rainn wrote on his own page, "Arrest this tweeter!" In return, Garret explained, "If I ever get outta this there will be a reckoning. It was a misTAKE, all right? I'm a whittler, plain and simple."



A couple of comments on that story

A close family member of mine actually got a taser gun onto an airplane. And a friend of mine at work got a knife that looks just like the one in this picture on 2 flights within a week. In both cases they didn't realize they had the weapons in their carry-on luggage. But if it's this easy to accidentally get a weapon onto a plane, how easy do you think it must be to smuggle a weapon onto a plane when you're actually trying?

I was on a flight where someone had a small knife with them on the plane, and security never caught it. This was the same security that I went though where they had me step to the side and pat me down...touching my boobs and my front below my waist IN PUBLIC!!!

I can't tell you how many times this has happened to me.
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The current TSA approach is pretty useless.
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The tsa has prevented further terrorist attacks on US soil.

I wonder why fox news types aren't touting that old song and dance anymore?
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The tsa has prevented further terrorist attacks on US soil.
I wish they'd stop filling the cargo holds with US soil. My bags get dirtier and dirtier each time I fly. I think everyone's bags eventually turn black from the dirty, greasy shit that's in each plane (and luggage truck and luggage belt).


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WASHINGTON -- The U.S. government is warning airlines that some terrorists are considering surgically implanting explosives into humans to carry out attacks.

There is no intelligence pointing to a specific plot, but the U.S. has shared this information with executives at domestic and international carriers.

The Transportation Security Administration says that people traveling to the U.S. from overseas may experience additional screening at airports.

Placing explosives and explosive components inside humans is not a new idea. But a U.S. security official says there is new intelligence pointing to a fresh interest in using this tactic.

The official spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive security information.
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What next? we will have to walk through scanners??
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Complete body cavity searches
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that should be outsource, at least to the private sector,
I am sure they could find people that would do it for 99 cents an hour, or even no pay at all.
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