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Old 03-16-2010, 09:10 PM   #226
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I go with that alien from the Star Trek closing credits.
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Old 03-18-2010, 11:51 AM   #227
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Rather Orwellian.

Man thrown off train over set list - Yahoo! News UK

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A musician has spoken of his shock at being removed from a train for "behaving suspiciously" by writing a list of songs which included the band name The Killers.
There are also radio ads for a hotline to report your neighbours who use cash, keep to themselves and draw their curtains.

In the UK.

In the UK.
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Old 03-18-2010, 01:35 PM   #228
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this seems to be much to do about nothing

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"They questioned me on all the songs and after about five minutes they were fine with me."

The support worker, who works with disabled children in Sholing, near Southampton, said he was an hour late for work after not being allowed back on the train.

He added: "I was just a bit confused. Afterwards I found it quite funny because I'm quite easy-going.

"They just said that they had to be extra vigilant."

The set list also included the song titles Cigarettes and Alcohol by Oasis and Love Me Like You by The Magic Numbers.

A South West Trains spokesman said that officers, who protect the security of passengers, wanted to speak to Mr Shaw in private rather than on the train.

"During a routine high-visibility patrol back in early March, they talked with a passenger on the platform at Fareham station," he explained.

"The team clarified the nature of the individual's business, were satisfied with his explanation and the man went on his way."
if the guy was Muslim and held in a cell overnight, I could see it as being an over reaction


I think since those trains were blown up, they are going to some 'extra measures'.


I remember I was flying a short time after 911, and I went through a complete dump out all my contents baggage check, it took me a while to figure it was not just a random selection

I remembered I had arrived to the airport a bit late and was a bit stressed and impatient at the flight check in counter, the counter clerk gave me a look.

later, I realized I was carrying a hard back book, I had wanted to finish reading, The Satanic Verses. I think that is what singled me out for the extra scrutiny. I have modified my airport behavior, and reading materials, and have had less problems since.
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Old 11-12-2010, 09:19 PM   #229
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My mom couldn't take her 4 ounces of applesauce in a manufacturer-sealed container on the airplane to Las Vegas on Tuesday. Only 3.4 ounces of applesauce are allowed in manufacturer-sealed containers.

I know I feel safer.
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Old 11-15-2010, 09:18 AM   #230
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There's all kinds of internet buzz about the full body scanners and how they're making the pat downs so intrusive in order to make people choose the scanner. They supposedly really get in there in the groin area (and the breasts too and of course it's palms down now) and only kids under 12 can opt out of that. Some people are saying that they feel like they're being sexually assaulted and that their kids are. Thanks terrorists. Also there are fears about the radiation from the scanners. Some pilots are being told not to do the scan because of that (obviously they have to be scanned much more often) and I saw a news report about a pilot who said he couldn't fly because he was so traumatized by the pat down. It would be especially difficult for anyone who has been a victim of a sexual molestation/assault.

I haven't flown in two years and I wouldn't be looking forward to doing so. I would choose the scan over the pat down any day. Id rather have the radiation then be inappropriately touched by a total stranger.
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Old 11-15-2010, 09:25 AM   #231
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I think I'd take the pat-down and have it done in public. Then people can see just how long-gone our actual freedom is.

But yeah, my long road trips make even more sense now.
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There's all kinds of internet buzz about the full body scanners and how they're making the pat downs so intrusive in order to make people choose the scanner. They supposedly really get in there in the groin area (and the breasts too and of course it's palms down now) and only kids under 12 can opt out of that. Some people are saying that they feel like they're being sexually assaulted and that their kids are. Thanks terrorists. Also there are fears about the radiation from the scanners. Some pilots are being told not to do the scan because of that (obviously they have to be scanned much more often) and I saw a news report about a pilot who said he couldn't fly because he was so traumatized by the pat down. It would be especially difficult for anyone who has been a victim of a sexual molestation/assault.

I haven't flown in two years and I wouldn't be looking forward to doing so. I would choose the scan over the pat down any day. Id rather have the radiation then be inappropriately touched by a total stranger.
Fully agreed (excellent point about the victims thing, too). I REALLY think this is a horribly bad, stupid idea, this invasive pat-down thing. I just don't see how it's going to help at all.

I haven't flown since 1997. I've been fortunate enough to miss out on all the post-9/11 hyperactive airport security measures. But I'm hoping to fly again someday if I want to travel to some of the places I want to go, and I'd like to not have to go through this crap at the airport to do so.

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<Insert title here>: TSA encounter at SAN

I looked him straight in the eye and said, "if you touch my junk, I'll have you arrested."
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Old 11-15-2010, 10:32 AM   #234
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later, I realized I was carrying a hard back book, I had wanted to finish reading, The Satanic Verses. I think that is what singled me out for the extra scrutiny.
Yeah that probably was not a good idea at the time, deep

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Next time I fly, I'm very tempted to opt for the pat-down just in principle (assuming they're installed at SeaTac by then).

But in the moment, I might feel too harried or irritated and would rather just get it over rather than stick to my guns.

We'll see what happens.
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Old 11-15-2010, 02:05 PM   #236
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I eagerly await the day when our airline travel experience is reduced to being tied to our seats, naked with hollow butt plugs as our only carry-ons.
ok, that wouldn´t be ALL that bad, would it?
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Old 11-15-2010, 02:46 PM   #237
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Only if all the passengers are unconscious during the flight.
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Yeah I'm going to take the in-public pat-down option next time I am unfortunate enough to fly, just to see what it's like.

Plus I've never had someone on probation (most TSA employees?) fulfilling his work requirement by touching my balls before.
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Make sure you make interesting noises while they're in your groinal area. "Ooh. Yeah. Little to the left, please."
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Old 11-15-2010, 03:13 PM   #240
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Make sure you make interesting noises while they're in your groinal area. "Ooh. Yeah. Little to the left, please."
lol, see, this is what I like about us vintage 73s - everybody got a little bit of rocky horror show implanted
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