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Old 05-14-2011, 01:40 PM   #121
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There's nothing wrong with breaking the pattern from one generation to the next. That IS a critical issue and if both parents don't do that it will continue. A mother can and should have equal influence on how a boy->man treats women. I agree that raising the bar for fathers is, in general, a great idea. They should want to raise the bar for themselves, so should mothers.

A girl should be raised to value herself for who she is, not who any man thinks she is or for what any man can do for her. To stand alone, happily. That way she will be better equipped to be independent and have self esteem and to avoid creeps and jerks and chauvinists.

I never even gave that any thought to that John Mayer song and the lyrics. Frankly I just love "fathers be good to your daughters too" just because of what has always felt so lacking in my personal experience. Don't like him but I like that.That song just kind of makes me sad, honestly. Just that phrase.
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Old 05-14-2011, 02:21 PM   #122
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FWIW, my grandmother told me "women must make men out of their boys." which i thought was interesting, not sure why she told me this when i was, like, 20, but she did. i assumed this was inherited wisdom of some sort.
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Old 05-14-2011, 02:56 PM   #123
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however, i don't think the mere possession of a vagina qualifies one for sainthood (nor do i think that's what you mean ... i'm just contesting the word "honor"). or, a vagina is no more saintly than a penis.
Sorry, I had to laugh at the image of saintly genitalia.

Ahem, anyway, I think it comes down to a matter of perspective on the word. I don't think of honouring anyone as necessarily putting them on a pedestal. I think we ought to respect the opposite sex just as we would want to be respected. Yes, some women are definitely dishonest, callous, cruel, etc. I still respect men in general, despite some of the creeps and dirtbags out there.

As I said, honour would just mean to me to hold a higher level of respect, generally for someone close to you. Your grandmother is a perfect example. I think one's life partner, the person you've made a commitment to, should be in that category. Not on a pedestal or up for sainthood, no. Just with an extra amount of reverence for the role they play in your life.

I think a world where we're taught to respect others in general and honour the close relationships in our lives would be a world with less disregard for human life and each other's boundaries.

I think that's what the article may have had the intention of stating, but yes, it veered off in a very paternalistic, unrealistic path.
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Old 05-14-2011, 03:45 PM   #124
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if i've upset anyone in this thread, please know that "daughters" has been in my head for the past 48 hours, so i'm being duly punished.









(kidding ... but not about the "daughters" part ... ugh ...)
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Old 05-14-2011, 07:06 PM   #125
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Came into this thread looking for sluts and left with mental image of saintly genitals.
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Old 05-14-2011, 07:10 PM   #126
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Best one liner ever!!!!
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Old 05-15-2011, 12:58 AM   #127
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These aren't the sluts you're looking for.
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Old 05-15-2011, 03:41 AM   #128
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Corie, after a couple beers, they're always the sluts you're looking for
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Old 05-15-2011, 05:46 AM   #129
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Was C3P0 more prone to sexual assault because he chose to walk around all the time with that bulging golden codpiece?
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Old 05-15-2011, 12:36 PM   #130
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Not to mention the slutty midriff bearing top
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Old 05-15-2011, 04:57 PM   #131
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I was going to post some pictures of that Taylor Momsen, actress from Gossip Girl, I have never watched but she is in the news lately.

>>>>(edit for cori) the thought was that people coming into this thread, get the proper payoff

she has proper slut pictures, she could be the 'grand master' of the walk.

but then I saw she was under-aged, she is only 17 (note to GAF).

I don't want to get us closed down.
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.... thanks? I guess?
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I found out that the lovely people of the Westboro Baptist "Church" will be protesting the Seattle SlutWalk.

Goody.
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One day I will turn on the internet and there will be a video of the WBC getting poop flung at them. I look forward to that day
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I found out that the lovely people of the Westboro Baptist "Church" will be protesting the Seattle SlutWalk.

Goody.
Oh good Lord! Those jerks are everywhere!
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