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Old 03-20-2009, 09:57 PM   #31
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^great letter JC.....you have no idea what an a** Dave Marsh is. . his only claim to fame is his association with Bruce Springsteen.... he is in the "inner circle"(his wife Barbara Carr works for Bruce).... and trust me he glossed over many ..many facts of his 'idol' Bruce in the biography he wrote..(and what he left out i do know for a fact) ... and don't get me wrong ... i love Bruce ..... but the things he left out ..well .. wouldn't put Bruce in the best light .. but this is about the article on Bono he wrote ....why? who knows .. jealousy..envy...pissed that they didn't pay enough taxes??(which really is none of anyones business)... we all know u2 individually and as a band do more than most for charities).. or some way to make himself relevant..cause he sure ain't that relevant now ... it's maybe a way to get in the news ... anything you write or say to him will be shot down with his intellectual sarcasm....i met him years and years ago in the "Spingsteen' 80s") and could not stand him then and really can't stand him now......you should frame those moronic responses he sent you... wow.. what an intellect he is ... he was probably sitting there knowing the backlash he would get from U2 fans ... and had these responses ready .... he probably never got so many e-mails in his whole career.... as for, Bono , i hope he just ignores him ... cause you know this moron will try to corner him backstage when they tour ..... probably will use his 'wifes' name to get tickets& passes..lol....
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Old 03-20-2009, 10:39 PM   #32
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while i think Bono does put himself up for mockery and doesn't always make things easy for himself,

this is a pretty dick response from said "journalist."

good for you for speaking your mind.
Personally, I would love for you or yolland to write a response back to this guy. Two of the best debaters on interference vs. dick response guy = no contest.
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Old 03-20-2009, 10:41 PM   #33
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I think Bono pretty much put his point of view out there on Acrobat, Stand Up Comedy, and Crazy Tonight; Hence the Trotskyite comment from McGuinness. Bono is not far left. He wants more money to get rid of "stupid poverty" as opposed to equal outcomes. I think the aid is helpful but obviously it's not going to change countries to the point of self-sufficiency. It's also apparent in songs like Breathe that Bono really is worried about not achieving divine Grace. So there's a personal spiritual interest in his endeavors.

I was pissed off though about Bono cutting off Mwenda. Bono supports the low taxes of Ireland (though not low enough for him) but also tries to say the education spending in Ireland lead to the Irish tiger. Well funding for schooling is fine if there's jobs waiting at the other end. Under communism everyone got education but when you graduate then where are the jobs? The most thorough way to handle the problem would be for African countries to embrace democracy, private property rights, and trade. This will take a long time since there are special interests that use coersion to prevent their power from spreading to a middle class.

This interview pretty much sums up Bono's opinion on the subject and he quotes Jesus that we won't be able to eliminate all poverty. He's focused on extreme poverty.

YouTube - Bono Vox (U2) - Interview 1/9

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I also think I remember an article where Brad Pitt talked about laying on the bed and telling Angelina that he had enough of the parties and the lifestyle. He wanted to be involved in something beyond himself instead of the typical hollywood life. I think when some people get really wealthy they get bored and exhausted by superficiality that they have an emotional need to be involved in a real way and social activism is usually what they turn to.
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Old 03-20-2009, 11:31 PM   #34
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Awesome post ^ those interviews were from Willow Creek...you would think Marsh would have done more investigating on the matter. It just proves even more what a cry baby he is over loosing his debate.
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Old 03-20-2009, 11:39 PM   #35
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Here is my email to Dave Marsh:

Mr. Marsh;

I am writing you in regard to your recent article, Big Scar on
the Horizon Sir Bono: the Knight Who Fled From His Own Debate.

First of all, let me correct you in your article title. Bono is not and
cannot be called Sir even though he was knighted. Because he is an Irish
citizen, he cannot have the title of “sir” before his name. That honor is
reserved for citizens of the United Kingdom or British Commonwealth
countries. Ireland left the Commonwealth when it became a republic in
1949. Therefore, there is no Sir Bono.

Second, after reading your article, it seemed you are more like a person
who is behaving like a child who didn't get their way. Just because you
thought you had the big gig, the big story, an all out exclusive to have
a debate with Bono, gave you the right to sandblast him across your
column when he reneged. When I first read about your meeting with him
and your offer to have a debate, it was interpreted that you genuinely
liked him. Now since your so called debate has been canceled, your
article sounds more like a lover scorned.

And Third, I don't know Bono personally, but have met him a number of
times. I think he is genuine. Instead of downsizing the philanthropy he
has created, why not join in? You put a negative spin on his antidotes
for the worlds hungry. May I ask, what have you done lately?
Me? You can ask because I have done plenty, thanks to Bono. Just because one
person says they were the only African, “at a party to raise
money for Africans, and there were no Africans in the room, except for
that one person,” or so many other Africans have complained that he speaks for them
but has never so much as asked their permission doesn't mean that it is the whole continent
that feels thay way. Maybe someone should take the long journey to Africa and ask the
people how much better things are through Bonos outreach and ideas. People now have
clean water wells, mosquito nets, aids/malaria medications and put over 25,000 or more
children in school. Ask the people who have benefited if they mind if Bono speaks on
their behalf. Their lives are better now because of him.

Lastly, Bono did you a favor by reneging on the debate. He is way too informed
on the subject matter and way to smart to fall for any journalists wise cracked questions.
He would have made you look more foolish on the airwaves than your article already suggests.
Regards, J. Coster

This is Marshes very intelligent and intellectual response:

remain blissful in your ignorance.
and stay out of my mailbox with your stupidity
.
Wow moving response from marsh
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Old 03-20-2009, 11:45 PM   #36
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^ Did you see the second one? That was even better.
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Old 03-20-2009, 11:55 PM   #37
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Sounds like a guy with issues, possibly an inferiority complex of some sort. Probably common enough among rock journalists. Pity about that, as it takes attention away from the (in my opinion) legitimate criticisms that were raised by Marsh regarding the politics of celebrity do-gooders, especially Bono.

JCoster's e-mail was fine, no need for his rude response
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Old 03-21-2009, 12:03 AM   #38
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^ Did you see the second one? That was even better.
Yeah, the man has issues.

I enjoy opposition and debate within reason. He has resorted to name calling which to me takes all his clout away. I teach it to my kindergarteners, when someone calls you a name its just because they can't think of anything to say that makes sense.
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Old 03-23-2009, 08:36 AM   #39
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Awesome post ^ those interviews were from Willow Creek...you would think Marsh would have done more investigating on the matter. It just proves even more what a cry baby he is over loosing his debate.
I thought your e-mail was fine, too. It seems that when Marsh doesn't know what to say, he comes across as very childish and rude.
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Old 03-23-2009, 01:18 PM   #40
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Bono is not far left.
Interesting, your very first foray into FYM was about how Bono and the rest of U2 were a bunch of socialists...
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Old 03-23-2009, 05:54 PM   #41
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maybe that was before u2 sold out in 2000.
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Old 03-23-2009, 07:31 PM   #42
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maybe that was before u2 sold out in 2000.

Bono is still far left, remember what he said about an Israeli dream and a Palestinian dream? Remember the way he tagged that bit on the end about a Palestinian dream, thinking no-one would notice? It's a really far left kind of extreme viewpoint to talk of such things as a Palestinian dream, communists talk like that. I only hope Bono is not an Al Qaeda sympathiser, like most communists and social democrats.

I was really culturally shocked that he would be so bold and daring. Really daring and provocative stuff.
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Bono is still far left, remember what he said about an Israeli dream and a Palestinian dream? Remember the way he tagged that bit on the end about a Palestinian dream, thinking no-one would notice? It's a really far left kind of extreme viewpoint to talk of such things as a Palestinian dream, communists talk like that. I only hope Bono is not an Al Qaeda sympathiser, like most communists and social democrats.

I was really culturally shocked that he would be so bold and daring. Really daring and provocative stuff
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Old 03-23-2009, 07:51 PM   #44
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I really don't know what the big deal is with Bono saying "a Palestinian dream."

Can't people dream of peace and no war in the world? Why would people want countries to fight or have civil wars take place? To have a dream that people won't die of that fighting and of war. I don't think that wanting peace in the world and especially in the middle east makes you a leftest, a communist, daring, bold nor is it provocative.
It makes you human.
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financeguy was being sarcastic.
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