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No, let the bells ring as they are now. 6 50.00%
Partially wrong, maybe they could of turned down the bells a bit.. 5 41.67%
Yes, <> the church was wrong and Phx along with the whole USA is going to hell in a hand basket. 1 8.33%
Church bells, music/chanting from Mosques should be protected within reason 0 0%
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Old 05-14-2009, 01:16 PM   #1
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Silencing of the bells in Phoenix, Bishop convicted. My, how we've fallen..

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Neighbors file noise complaint about church bells

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09:36 AM Mountain Standard Time on Wednesday, May 13, 2009

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Bishop in court

May 12th, 2009

Neighbors file noise complaint about church bells -

- A religious leader went before a judge Tuesday morning to face criminal charges regarding his church bells.

The bells at the Cathedral of Christ the King chime every hour from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m.

Some neighbors near 29th Avenue and Greenway Road complained the bells were too loud so they filed a noise complaint.

Bishop Rick Painter said he has received support from other neighbors who enjoy the sound.

However, a judge ruled in favor of the neighbors and Painter will appear in court next month to hear his sentence.


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This is not good, what are your thoughts?

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I would vote the second option, but I can't spell grammatical errors so I voted the first.

We've had a couple of issues like this here, where a Bishop rang the bells at 6.30 am each morning. I can understand if people complain about that, but 8 am? The bells there now ring from 7 am btw.

It's just part of our heritage, our culture, I don't think we should mess with that.
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the War On Christmas is starting early this year i see ...
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Old 05-14-2009, 01:55 PM   #4
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Old 05-14-2009, 03:43 PM   #6
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I wouldn't mind the bells, but that ugly ass building is another thing.
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Old 05-14-2009, 03:51 PM   #7
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Personally I love church bells but if I were a night shift worker and my main sleeping hours were during the day, it would be tough to take every hour on the hour.
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do the bells by wi-fi

let the members or people that want to hear them have the amplification inside of their homes, only
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do the bells by wi-fi

let the members or people that want to hear them have the amplification inside of their homes, only
Oh! Better yet -- implant a little chip in those who want to hear the bells, so it rings right inside their own heads! They could have their own little concert.

I had an uncle who was sure the army had implanted a radio in his teeth...maybe they could use that technology?
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Hmm, I've never lived anywhere where the local churches did this.

I understand ringing the bells before and after services, but what's the point in ringing them at other times? Does it serve some actual religious purpose?
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Well, originally church bells served the purpose of signalling the full hour when people didn't have other clocks, and to call to the service. But today I would say it's just tradition anymore.
Most church bells here don't ring every full hour anymore. Some only at weekends 12 o'clock and in other parts every day at that time.
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The church nearby my father's friend's shorehouse in South Jersey rings like this. It's fucking loud. It's not actual bells, also, it's a bell-like sound rang through the kinds of speaker/horns you'd find at a fire company.
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I can understand if people complain about that, but 8 am? The bells there now ring from 7 am btw.
Not everyone is on the same schedule, there are daysleepers...



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1. They aren't even real bells...

2. Why every hour?

3. Has anyone actually measured the decibel level, are they too loud?

4. Would the church still use the "freedom of speech" argument if their neighbor played loud hip hop during their services?

I think it's fashionable for churches to yell free speech in the name of victimhood, but if the tables were turned they would be the first filing charges.
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Well, originally church bells served the purpose of signalling the full hour when people didn't have other clocks, and to call to the service.
I think I even heard that the people in the village all keep on the same schedule by setting their clocks to the bells.



this really has nothing to do with religious freedom
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Yes, and if you travel around Europe, particularly in small villages in Italy, this is still commonly done. I think it's kind of charming, to be honest. I'm not sure how I'd feel if I lived next to one, though, so I'll reserve judgment.
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