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Old 11-18-2008, 11:09 AM   #16
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Umm, the single largest terroris attack in the US was under George bush. We have to be thankful for that ???

Looks like you are sore that you are losing your largest benefactor, hopefully we will not be giving as much "aid" to Israel as in the past.

What does al-Queda and Israel have in common ? They have both attacked US warships and killed American servicemen.
In case aB doesn't know what I'm talking about here

USS Liberty Memorial Main Page
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Old 11-18-2008, 11:30 AM   #17
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I've always maintained that, while I also mourn for the victims, the worst thing terrorists can do to us as a society is drag us down to their level. In that context, Guantanamo Bay was a huge and horrible step in the wrong direction and the sooner they close that monstrosity, the better.

Having said that, the question about what to do with the prisoners is a good one. These people don't seem to have any legal status so in front of which court do you judge them?
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Old 11-18-2008, 11:35 AM   #18
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Thankfully, the United States hasn't had to deal with terrorism on the scale that Israel has had to. And thanks to George Bush (and the wonderful allied forces behind him), the United States has been safe from attacks on American soil for the past 7 years and hundreds of terror suspects have been captured - which wouldn't have been possible without the emergency measures that Bush set into place.
Perhaps, you can answer this question for me. The first World Trade Centre attack was in 1993, about one month into Bill Clinton's term. There had not been a single attack on American soil (if we're not talking about domestic terrorism, such as the Oklahoma City bombing) until more than eight years later, eight month's into George W. Bush's term.

So tell me, who do we have to thank that there was no terrorist attack on American soil between 1993 and 2001? The threat of attack from jihadists was present at that time, yet, no attacks.
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Old 11-18-2008, 11:38 AM   #19
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In case aB doesn't know what I'm talking about here

USS Liberty Memorial Main Page
Thanks for that link.....

Now, for those that want the TRUTH - here it is:

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Old 11-18-2008, 12:28 PM   #20
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Barak Obama is so desparate to sweep away everything connected to the Bush administration, he will single-handedly bring America back to the pre-911 days.
As much as I may dislike the Clintons, I prefer the pre-9/11 days to the days we are living in right now. I'd be happy to go back to 2000 when all we had to worry about were hanging chads.

I can't wait for Obama to bring those days back.
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Old 11-18-2008, 12:46 PM   #21
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Thanks for that link.....

Now, for those that want the TRUTH - here it is:

The USS Liberty
Yeah, I know which one I'd choose to believe if I lived in Israel and relied on American handouts...........
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Old 11-18-2008, 01:26 PM   #23
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Just what I was afraid of.

Barak Obama is so desparate to sweep away everything connected to the Bush administration, he will single-handedly bring America back to the pre-911 days.
I've never posted in one of your pro-Bush threads before, but your blind loyalty to that administration, in the face of everything that's known about them these days (I'm talking facts, not speculation), is disturbing and frightening.
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Old 11-18-2008, 01:58 PM   #24
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First of all, we house the terrorists we capture in regular jails in special sections saved for security prisoners.

Secondly, Israel has been in a constant struggle against terrorism since the state was created 60 years ago - and even before, so I can understand the war on terror and the measures taken to fight it.
Millions if not billions of people around the globe believe that Israel is itself a terrorist state. Personally I don't agree with that analysis, however viewpoints like yours are probably part of what gives rise to this idea.
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Old 11-18-2008, 03:00 PM   #25
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For new FYM posters, there's something you have to understand about AchtungBono.

To her, there's no such thing as abuse of power, so the Constitution is unnecessary because someone like George Bush is completely trustworthy. He'll never arrest the wrong man, he'll never misuse the Patriot Act, nothing.

Better a thousand innocent men in jail than one guilty man free, right?
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he'll never misuse the Patriot Act, nothing.
lol misusing the Patriot Act is like a double negative.
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Old 11-18-2008, 05:08 PM   #27
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Thankfully, the United States hasn't had to deal with terrorism on the scale that Israel has had to. And thanks to George Bush (and the wonderful allied forces behind him), the United States has been safe from attacks on American soil for the past 7 years...
you see that episode where lisa tells bart that her special rock has prevented tiger attacks in springfield ever since she got it?
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Old 11-18-2008, 05:22 PM   #28
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There IS no justice when you apply the constitution
Let's rip up the constitution tomorrow.

Then Obama could really do what he wanted!!
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Old 11-18-2008, 06:07 PM   #29
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Let's rip up the constitution tomorrow.

What's left of it after W got through with it.
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There IS no justice when you apply the constitution - this is why a seriel killer can go free because he wasn't read his rights or why a killer's confession can be thrown out because the police got his confession without his lawyer present, or why the police can pop open a car trunk, find a deal body but be unable to use it as evidence because of a 4th amendment violation......or why anyone can buy a gun and shoot up a school because of the "wonderful" right to bear arms.

That's not my idea of justice.
Your idea of justice is not what most legal systems are based on, thankfully.
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