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Old 08-31-2013, 04:21 AM   #31
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I long for the good old days where the CIA could just kill Assad and nobody would know the difference.
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Old 08-31-2013, 08:22 AM   #32
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Basically we are pretty sure the use of chemical weapons comes from the government, it's a question really of whether it was on Assad's express orders, some sources seem to be saying it may have come from his brother Maher, who has a reputation of being a thug and bit more erratic, who has control of his own army division I believe.

Anyway I don't think anyone buys the glorious rebel nonsense, I think we are fairly cognisant they are a disparate group of Islamists and some other factions as well, who are just as likely to descend into civil war if left in charge. I don't see doing nothing as compromising our morality anymore than our morality has already been compromised by our decades of dubious involvement in the Middle East.

Personally I don't know why chemical weapons are such a red line, they are nasty but Assad has killed many more with conventional means before even using gas, so do we only go to war depending on the nastiness of the killing? So if he killed his people as 'humanely' as possible we would do nothing? It seems arbitrary.
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Old 08-31-2013, 09:41 AM   #33
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Perhaps they should just strike the entire middle east with a giant nuke. Problem solved, right?
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The real question being, will they still be able to get the oil?
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Old 08-31-2013, 11:00 PM   #35
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Should the US bomb Syria?

Absolutely NOT!!! Stop being the policemen of the world and focus on taking care of our own citizens (which they have hard enough time doing) instead of starting more bullshit in the middle east. And they wonder why the terrorists hate us....

Oh that's right, because we are free.

How's that for being "conservative?"
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Old 08-31-2013, 11:42 PM   #36
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Should the US bomb Syria?

Absolutely NOT!!! Stop being the policemen of the world and focus on taking care of our own citizens (which they have hard enough time doing)
There are some rather severe national security concerns at stake here -- not the least of which is Syria's alliance with Russia and China, and the potential for this situation to ignite the entire Middle East. (Egypt, for example, which is another tinderbox.)

An exploding Middle East, complete with tyrants who can gas their own people with impunity, benefits no one.
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Old 09-01-2013, 12:16 AM   #37
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There are some rather severe national security concerns at stake here -- not the least of which is Syria's alliance with Russia and China, and the potential for this situation to ignite the entire Middle East. (Egypt, for example, which is another tinderbox.)

An exploding Middle East, complete with tyrants who can gas their own people with impunity, benefits no one.
So does Syria pose a DIRECT threat to the USA? To they have the capability to launch missiles that can reach the US or have the troops to invade the US? I don't think so. Why does the US have to always be the one to intervene? Don't we have enough of our own problems? Let some other country deal with this crap for a change.

Oh yeah because we're number 1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 09-01-2013, 04:27 AM   #38
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They got terrorist that can fly planes into your World Trade center, killing thousands..... That a direct threat enough for you mr number 1?
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And what do you think lead to said terrorist attacks?
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Who's the 'they', I thought the 9/11 participants were mainly Saudi nationals.
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Also, for what it's worth, al-Qaeda may very well be happy to see the US intervene against Assad. al-Qaeda and Assad are hardly allies.
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They got terrorist that can fly planes into your World Trade center, killing thousands..... That a direct threat enough for you mr number 1?

Syria did 9-11? Might want to check your history a bit.

Speaking of that, why would the terrorists have done 9-11 in the first place?

Oh yeah, maybe because the USA has been fucking around in the Middle East meddling in their affairs since the 50's.

Or it could just be because they hate our freedom, just like Bush said.
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Oh yeah, maybe because the USA has been fucking around in the Middle East meddling in their affairs since the 50's.
Therein lies my greatest concern with intervening in Syria.
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Don't we have enough of our own problems? Let some other country deal with this crap for a change.
Not a judgement on your position, but it's worth noting that isolationism is what kept Great Britain and the US out of WW II for so long and allowed the situation to get so out of control there. Staying out of it doesn't always work out in the way that you want it to. That said, I'm not a big fan of fucking around in the Middle East.
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isolationism
Choosing to not bomb a country isn't being an isolationist.
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