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Old 08-30-2013, 06:38 AM   #16
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Yeah, though I beg to differ. I'm fine with Heineken, it's nothing special but it's drinkable. Bavaria on the other hand...
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Old 08-30-2013, 09:18 AM   #17
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America is to the world what Tony Dungy is to troubled NFL players. Of course we should bomb Syria, as we should bomb anyone that gets out of line. We're 'Murica!
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Old 08-30-2013, 12:45 PM   #18
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No good can come from war. It's a humongous waste of money and no matter who you side, you upset somebody else who will then plot to terrorize your country. Simply not worth it. There has got to be other means to try to end this chemical warfare.
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Old 08-30-2013, 01:11 PM   #19
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There has got to be other means to try to end this chemical warfare.


what are they? i really want to know.
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Old 08-30-2013, 01:13 PM   #20
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This isn't the particular article I was looking for, I'll have to go track it down on my stubmleupon account, but The Onion has really been taking quite a bit on with the Syria situation:

Hi, In The Past 2 Years, You Have Allowed Me To Kill 70,000 People | The Onion - America's Finest News Source
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Old 08-30-2013, 01:15 PM   #21
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Here it is:

So, What’s It Going To Be? | The Onion - America's Finest News Source
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Old 08-30-2013, 01:26 PM   #22
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Though I can't vouch for its accuracy (it's a picture doing rounds on Facebook), this short summary does give a telling impression of the mess that's the Middle East.
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That's fucking brilliant.

No matter what happens, it's our fault. Would be nice if our friends and allies would occasionally acknowledge the rather difficult position we're pretty much always in (Bush years excepted).
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Old 08-30-2013, 02:18 PM   #24
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Interesting...

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(CNN) -- [Breaking news alert 1:19 p.m. ET]
A preliminary U.S. government assessment of last week's chemical weapons attack in Syria has made these key findings:

--100 videos attributed to a suspected chemical weapons attack in Syria "show large numbers of bodies exhibiting physical signs consistent with, but not unique to, nerve agent exposure." Some videos show what appear to be fatalities "with no visible injuries" -- imagery "consistent with death from chemical weapons, and inconsistent with death from small-arms, high-explosive munitions or blister agents," said the report, released Friday.

--1,429 people were killed in an August 21 chemical weapons attack in Syria and asserted that "we assess with high confidence that the Syrian government carried out the chemical weapons attack against opposition elements in the Damascus suburbs."

-- The United States says it has "intelligence that leads us to assess that Syrian chemical weapons personnel ... were preparing chemical weapons munitions prior to" what Washington believes was a chemical weapons attack in the Damascus suburbs on August 21. "In the three days prior to the attack, we collected streams of human, signals and geospatial intelligence that reveal regime activities that we assess were associated with preparations for a chemical weapons attack," the U.S. government said in its assessment released Friday.

Citing support from the Arab League, Turkey and France, Secretary of State John Kerry said Friday that "we are not alone in our will to do something about" last week's chemical weapons attack in Syria that he blamed on the regime of President Bashar al-Assad.
Kerry added that the United States "makes our own decisions on our own timelines, based on our own values and interests" in signaling a possible military response to last week's chemical weapons attack in Syria.
Get ready Pac_Mule, we'll be shipped to the Mideast within a year...
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Kinda hilarious how Heineken is looked down upon by us Dutch people, annd it's majorly praised all over the world.
Cultural cringe -- beer division. :-)
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That's fucking brilliant.

No matter what happens, it's our fault. Would be nice if our friends and allies would occasionally acknowledge the rather difficult position we're pretty much always in (Bush years excepted).
It's strange reading it and knowing that it's an Onion article, but at the same time, it gives me shivers because of how telling it really is.

Called it nationalism or whatever Vlad wants to, but I actually understand a bit of where Tim was coming from in the Big Brother comment he made. I don't know that it's the US's responsibility to deal with these situations, I don't think it is, and yet as human beings how can you look at a situation like this and do nothing. It's such a horrible place to be in. (Hope that made sense).
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Old 08-30-2013, 02:35 PM   #27
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My Predictions:

- US Cruise Missile strike against a few Syrian military targets.
- Syria will hit Israel with missiles and cyber attacks
- Israel will strike back with missiles and cyber attacks
- Iran and Southern Lebanon hit Israel with missiles
- US and Israel will hit Iran and Southern Lebanon with missiles and cyber attacks
- Chaos erupts in the streets of most Middle East countries - mass atrocities
- A major terrorist attack occurs somewhere in the US or Israel
- UK changes stance
- The "Global War on Terror" intensifies big time...over a million NATO troops sent to countries like Egypt, Syria, Iran, Pakistan, Libya, Nigeria...possibly again to Iraq
- Russia and China remain "neutral"
- NATO troops remain in the Mid East for the next 20 years (or until solar grid parity)
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The declassified version of the US government's intelligence report is not very interesting. It's just a summary with a lot of "we have evidence that says x". That being said, I strongly question whether the Obama Administration would have an incentive to make this up.
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Relevant to the Onion links (kind of):

The world reacts to the crisis in Syria - The Oatmeal

It's funny horribly depressing because it's true.
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Old 08-30-2013, 04:27 PM   #30
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what are they? i really want to know.
I don't know. But more killing to stop the killing doesn't seem to make sense.

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That really is brilliant! Very well written.
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