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Old 09-17-2013, 08:54 AM   #136
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I think it's more like Chutes and Ladders. It really comes across that he's just winging it and that he hopes it all works out.


At least it's better than the Hungry Hungry Hippos era of Bush/Cheney, or the Candyland of Reagan.
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Old 09-17-2013, 10:04 AM   #137
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To me it comes across more so he wanted to bomb Syria, but with the majority of the world yelling 'NO' or dubious about bombing at best, and with only a select few voices in the US supporting such a view, he had no choice but to look for alternatives. I'd figure if Bush and co had come up against a similar reaction it may have stalled them (though the gears of war were fully winding up for a decade since the first Gulf War and I'm doubtful anything would have stopped it).

I think Obama's current diplomacy is just a happy accident
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Old 09-17-2013, 03:46 PM   #138
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Can anyone articulate Obama’s foreign policy goals in the Middle East? We’re not hearing it from the Washington and Putin stepped into the leadership vacuum in the White House to direct the Syrian situation.

If the best we get is the broken record of “at least he’s still better than Bush” – we’re all in trouble.
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Old 09-17-2013, 04:06 PM   #139
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my board game comment was in jest.

it seems an enormous foreign policy goal has already been achieved -- Assad has been disarmed of his chemical weapons via diplomacy and not having to go through the impasse of China and Russia at the UN, and a framework for dealing with Iran and nuclear power has been etched out. note the progress:

Iranian President Rohani Prepared to Decomission Nuclear Site - SPIEGEL ONLINE

it's incredibly easy to continue to criticize, but it can't be that easy to actively root against a president to make mistakes at the expense of everyone else.
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Old 01-28-2014, 07:36 PM   #140
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Not sure if this is the dedicated Syria thread or what but this is pretty damn sad





Syria's heritage in ruins: before-and-after pictures | World news | The Guardian
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