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Old 11-17-2015, 01:27 PM   #181
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It seems that ISIS actions over the past month have aligned Russia, France, the U.S., and Hezbollah against them. That's quite a feat.
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Old 11-17-2015, 01:30 PM   #182
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Don't forget Iran. They're not fans is ISIS either. Sadly, however they do support Assad.
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Old 11-17-2015, 01:56 PM   #183
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Good news is Assad doesn't support them, either.

Clearly, ISIS is trying to make world peace by bringing everyone together.
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Old 11-17-2015, 02:31 PM   #184
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Because the US hasn't been dropping enough bombs in Syria?
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Old 11-17-2015, 02:54 PM   #185
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The Germany-Netherlands friendly soccer match in Hannover was cancelled after, according to reports, an ambulance filled with explosives was found near the stadium.
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Old 11-17-2015, 03:01 PM   #186
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If reports are to be believed, looks like the plan had been to drive the ambulance into the stadium, and then blow it up during the match.

This was literally the plot of a Criminal Minds episode.

ETA: Appears it was a truck (or van) disguised as an ambulance.
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Old 11-17-2015, 03:43 PM   #187
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one of the reasons i love France

that spirit...

tomorrow's Charlie Hebdo cover:

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Old 11-17-2015, 03:59 PM   #188
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Old 11-17-2015, 04:00 PM   #189
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I guess I was able to!?!
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Old 11-17-2015, 04:06 PM   #190
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Proof that initial reports are rarely ever correct, it now appears that there were no explosives, and authorities in Hannover were acting out of an abundance of caution.
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This group is driven by a deep, ancient fundamentalist version of Islam. They won't stop.

This isn't your normal middle eastern terrorist group. They won't back down if we stop meddling in the region. They're not angry over Israel (well they are, but not only). They're obsessed with the apocalypse and bringing about the end times.

They must be dealt with.

We need smarter long term plans to deal with the middle East and terrorism in general. Yes. True.

ISIS isn't that. They're something different. And they're not stopping unless we stop them.

Driving ISIS off the face of the earth may actually go further to help our reputation in the middle east. This isn't like al Qaeda, where the Middle Eastern countries say they hate them but secretly find them through back channels. This isn't Hezbollah. These countries hate ISIS as much as we do, if not more so.

I generally agree with the "lets stop fucking around over there and creating more enemies than that of which we kill" way of combating terrorism.

Not in this case. Not with them.

They need to be destroyed.
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The former wife of Paris bomber Ibrahim Abdeslam has broken her silence to say he was a jobless layabout who smoked cannabis 'all day every day', never went to the mosque and had spent time in prison.

ISIS Paris bomber Ibrahim Abdeslam's ex-wife reveals terrorist never went to mosque | Daily Mail Online
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This group is driven by a deep, ancient fundamentalist version of Islam. They won't stop.

This isn't your normal middle eastern terrorist group. They won't back down if we stop meddling in the region. They're not angry over Israel (well they are, but not only). They're obsessed with the apocalypse and bringing about the end times.

They must be dealt with.

We need smarter long term plans to deal with the middle East and terrorism in general. Yes. True.

ISIS isn't that. They're something different. And they're not stopping unless we stop them.

Driving ISIS off the face of the earth may actually go further to help our reputation in the middle east. This isn't like al Qaeda, where the Middle Eastern countries say they hate them but secretly find them through back channels. This isn't Hezbollah. These countries hate ISIS as much as we do, if not more so.

I generally agree with the "lets stop fucking around over there and creating more enemies than that of which we kill" way of combating terrorism.

Not in this case. Not with them.

They need to be destroyed.
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Old 11-17-2015, 04:27 PM   #195
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