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Old 11-16-2015, 05:33 PM   #166
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i don't know... check out the victims, their names... just normal people enjoying Paris life, and certainly not all "blue eyed and blond" as your article would suggest - i feel so insulted by that comment actually, it's unreal...

i can understand your objection to that part of the essay, but what about the rest of it? the idea that, really, it's about bread and water. the absence of both is what breeds extremism.
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Old 11-16-2015, 05:47 PM   #167
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i can understand your objection to that part of the essay, but what about the rest of it? the idea that, really, it's about bread and water. the absence of both is what breeds extremism.
well, it's stating the obvious really... diminishing resources, due to natural and man-made factors, have always led to extreme behaviours... Hitler tried to exploit food shortages in his rise to power for instance...

(i'm sorry for not going into more depth in the conversation, but i'm exhausted - have probably slept about 8 hours in the past week so my brain isn't doing too well lol)
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Old 11-16-2015, 06:06 PM   #168
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I put it on my FB about it an hour ago, it's very well said.
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Old 11-16-2015, 09:06 PM   #170
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i don't know... check out the victims, their names... just normal people enjoying Paris life, and certainly not all "blue eyed and blond" as your article would suggest - i feel so insulted by that comment actually, it's unreal...

i actually think Muslims have a better chance to integrate here in France than in the UK for instance - this is what i see in my day-to-day life, among my peers, kids' friends, colleagues, many many Muslims well integrated and thriving here in France... of course, there are the banlieues, high unemployment among the young (but which affects ALL young people) and issues of marginalisation and social pressure which still need to be addressed

i feel education is the key, and here in France, education even at university level is free and accessible to all

here in France, Muslims are first and foremost seen as French - being a Muslim is seen as just a religion, not a nationality - it's the concept of belonging to a country no matter what your religion or the colour of your skin; it's the separation of state and faith

I am a second-generation immigrant, born in the UK where this separation does not exist, and i have never felt British, never been considered "British" by Brits or expats LOL, simply due to my appearance, so i can see a stark difference between the French and British approach in that respect, and i quite like the feeling of being able to "belong" no matter what colour i am
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The criminals, the terrorists will always find a way to get the weapons they need.


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Indeed.

And they're finding them with great success in the United States!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...uns/?tid=sm_tw

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Between 2004 and 2014,suspected terrorists attempted to purchase guns from American dealers at least 2,233 times. And in 2,043 of those cases— 91 percent of the time— they succeeded.
91%! If only that were our graduation rate

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Lawmakers have tried to stop this from happening. Bills have been introduced in Congress to do just that, goingas far back as 2007at the behest of then-Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) and Rep. Peter T. King (R-N.Y.)introduced a bill to do thatearlier this year. The "Denying Firearms and Explosives to Dangerous Terrorists Act of 2015" would prevent several hundred gun purchases by suspected terrorists each year, and it includes provisions to let people challenge a denial if they believe they were placed on the watchlist in error.

But these bills haverarely made it out of committee, in part due to vehement opposition from the National Rifle Associationand its allies in Congress. The NRAobjected to earlier versions of the bill, saying they were "aimed primarily at law-abiding American gun owners," that "prohibiting the possession of firearms doesn’t stop criminals from illegally acquiring them," and that the bills were "sponsored by gun control extremists."
Hooray!

It's official; the NRA is aiding and abetting known terrorists. Send every last one of those fuckers to G'itmo.
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Jumping in this convo, as far as assimilation go it's a two way street. My father emigrated to london in the 60 s and on purpose chose to move to an area of London which did not have a lot of Asian families. He did not want to live in a cloistered community. Sure, I was called a 'paki' once or twice but that did not make me feel less british.
Now i live in the u.s and have kids of my own and I monitor their interaction etc, we vet any preacher who comes to deliver a speech. I am gobsmacked how hate preachers are so rampant in Europe, why does Belgium have a major city that the police consider a jihadi hotbed? These people are taking advantage of the very freedoms they are railing against.
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Sure, I was called a 'paki' once or twice but that did not make me feel less british.
the school dork called me that once, and i kicked him in the shin so hard we were BOTH hopping on one leg in agony

my family were from British Guyana, a proper mix (dad looks like a normal white man but with a heavy Jamaican accent, mum looked Indian but had actually been brought up and educated in England and had no accent), and we were the only immigrant family on a posh street in a 70s mining town, so i guess people didn't know what the hell to make of us
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I think the solution is simple:

Let's just ban toddlers AND Syrian refugees, then everyone will be safe.

Police: Toddler shoots and kills himself after getting gun
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Hey at least the toddler only killed himself, no harm to anyone else.
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keep on scorching the earth!
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I think the solution is simple:

Let's just ban toddlers AND Syrian refugees, then everyone will be safe.

Police: Toddler shoots and kills himself after getting gun
Nah, if it's a clean suicide it's good for weeding out the idiot population. Only ban those killing others with them!
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Looks like Russia is joining France in bombing ISIS in the Raqqa area, ironically Obama is still waiting to be 150% sure that it was ISIL in the first place and then possibly will decide in the next week (or two or maybe three) to do anything about it.
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Looks like Russia is joining France in bombing ISIS in the Raqqa area, ironically Obama is still waiting to be 150% sure that it was ISIL in the first place and then possibly will decide in the next week (or two or maybe three) to do anything about it.

Where is the irony?

Is indiscriminate bombing going to solve anything?


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Old 11-17-2015, 12:43 PM   #180
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Because the US hasn't been dropping enough bombs in Syria?
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