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Old 03-02-2010, 07:29 PM   #16
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I don't know what to think about this situation.

But is his point -- "“If we can’t find $10 billion to pay for it, we’re not going to pay for anything,” Mr. Bunning said on the floor on Monday." -- automatically invalid just because he's a Republican?
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Old 03-02-2010, 07:31 PM   #17
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Old 03-02-2010, 07:54 PM   #18
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Asshole.

He's been an asshole for a long time, though, so it's not at all unexpected.
This.

It is not news that almost no one, Democrat or Republican likes Jim Bunning. He is widely known as a complete asshole. Mitch McConnell hates him.

They need to stop these special sessions and make him straight filibuster for hours on end in normal business. Vote for cloture every day at noon. That will put all the pressure on him and will call out the Republicans to either show they have some modicum of sense left and go against him or stand behind him and show just how out of touch they are.

This is just a joke. Bunning VOTED AGAINST PAY AS YOU GO for every single other piece of legislation. Just like the rest of the Republicans, they are only "fiscally conservative" when a Democrat is in office. That is why they supported all kinds of unnecessary wasteful spending for years but now when we have to spend to keep the economy from completely tanking, they are against it. They are fiscally conservative like Bono is tall.

Bunning himself did not show too much concern about how we were going to pay for the $70 million in earmarks he sponsored in 2008-2009. Google turns up no hits of Jim Bunning expressing his outrage that Bush was not paying for 2 wars(approx $1trillion combined) and his tax cuts, about $1.5 trillion and the Medicare Part 2, about $1.2 trillion. Something tells me these things were a little bigger than $10 billion in emergency unemployment benefits.

So now routine money for the highway administration, infrastructure, small business loans, you know, the things that help keep our economy moving, is held up because Bunning is being an asshole.

Some Republicans genuinely think the voters are stupid enough to believe their "fiscally conservative" bullshit act. But not Bunning. The only reason he is doing this is because he is an asshole- he has no such image concerns, he is not running for re election. He could care less if he is portrayed as left of Bernie Sanders.

The Tea Party and their friends in Congress are such fakers and their fake concern about the deficit is so widespread that a term has been coined to describe them:

How to Spot a Deficit Peacock

Of note-Obama's discretionary spending freeze helps, but it is his focus on health care that will put the biggest dent in the deficit by cutting the cost of entitlements. The Republicans are lockstep opposing what will put the biggest dent in our deficit.
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Old 03-02-2010, 08:19 PM   #19
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I don't know what to think about this situation.

But is his point -- "If we cant find $10 billion to pay for it, were not going to pay for anything, Mr. Bunning said on the floor on Monday." -- automatically invalid just because he's a Republican?
Do you remember him making such statements when he voted for all the wild, irresponsible spending under Bush? No? Yeah, neither do the rest of us.
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Old 03-02-2010, 08:39 PM   #20
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He finally relented.

GOP's Bunning relents, OKs action on jobless bill - Yahoo! News
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I guess this means that insipid one month extension of the COBRA subsidy will go through.

It's not the subsidy I object to, it's the idiocy of extending it for one more month when it will likely be extended yet again. It's an administrative pain in the giant ass for employers, with all the notifications and retroactive finagaling we have to do. (I know, I know - boo hoo hoo, poor employers.)

And by the by, it annoys me to no end to see the headlines about how ending the subsidy will "impact millions." Well no shit, Sherlock. People had to pay full price for COBRA before, they'll have to eventually do it again. You can't keep extending it indefinitely. Although I'm sure they will anyway.

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Hero, if for no other reason than he's pissing off all the right people.
Yes, like my mother and millions of other Americans who depend on these benefits while struggling to find a job.
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I don't know what to think about this situation.

But is his point -- "If we cant find $10 billion to pay for it, were not going to pay for anything, Mr. Bunning said on the floor on Monday." -- automatically invalid just because he's a Republican?
No, it's invalid because he isn't consistent, except for when it comes to being an asshole. Seriously, look at his record.
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Old 03-03-2010, 01:31 AM   #25
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Hero, if for no other reason than he's pissing off all the right people.
The unemployed?
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I guess this means that insipid one month extension of the COBRA subsidy will go through.

It's not the subsidy I object to, it's the idiocy of extending it for one more month when it will likely be extended yet again. It's an administrative pain in the giant ass for employers, with all the notifications and retroactive finagaling we have to do. (I know, I know - boo hoo hoo, poor employers.)

And by the by, it annoys me to no end to see the headlines about how ending the subsidy will "impact millions." Well no shit, Sherlock. People had to pay full price for COBRA before, they'll have to eventually do it again. You can't keep extending it indefinitely. Although I'm sure they will anyway.

/employee benefits administration hat off, regular hat back on
This will be phased out with the rest of the stimulus provisions at the end of 2010. The extend indefinitely part was what Congress was worried about when they wrote the bill, that is why they made Dec 2010 clear. If they are going to extend indefinitely, it will require a whole new legislative document, not procedural amendments. We obviously will not be able to keep doing this as the economy recovers, we need to get whiplash turning from stimulating the economy to reducing the deficit. That need has been clear for quite some time.

All of the stimulus provisions, one of which was COBRA subsidies, were explicitly written to be phased out by the end of 2010. COBRA subsidies were originally slated to end in November 2009(9 months after enactment). The were things that ended earlier and have been extended to the present, but the whole deal was to end no later than Dec 31, 2010.

Either way, with the economy recovering and unemployment falling, it should not be an issue too much longer!

Hang in there, I am sure it is tedious, pain in the ass work!
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Old 03-03-2010, 01:49 AM   #27
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Hey, listen, Harry and Louise can afford to go without unemployment benefits(that they paid for through their taxes by working the required amount of hours) and COBRA coverage, even though they have a kid with asthma and a big home heating bill. We know for sure, however, that Jim Bunning CANNOT AFFORD TO MISS ANOTHER KENTUCKY BASKETBALL GAME. That was the tragedy of all tragedies in this recession, Bunning missed some ball games because he chose to be a complete asshole for 10 days.
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Hey, listen, Harry and Louise can afford to go without unemployment benefits(that they paid for through their taxes by working the required amount of hours) and COBRA coverage, even though they have a kid with asthma and a big home heating bill. We know for sure, however, that Jim Bunning CANNOT AFFORD TO MISS ANOTHER KENTUCKY BASKETBALL GAME. That was the tragedy of all tragedies in this recession, Bunning missed some ball games because he chose to be a complete asshole for 10 days.
But it was South Carolina, man. South Carolina! It was their last chance to get revenge on them! Come on!
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Hero, if for no other reason than he's pissing off all the right people.
All the right people would be "everyone"? I have no problem pissing people off, but at least have a fucking point.

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Now, to the point, what's one good reason why the bill can't be paid for from the 4 or 5 hundred billion dollars worth of unspent stimulus money?
They're saving that for the bankers. Just in case.


Also, can we change the poll, please? Calling Bunning an asshole is an insult to assholes. Can we make that option read "Douche Bag" cause it's more appropriate. Maybe even "Dick". "Asshole" doesn't apply to him. Assholes generally have a point.
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Bunning is an obstructionist jerk. Hero? Hardly. Zero is more like it.

He had no problem voting for extension of benefits in 2003 and then put out a press release about how 'great it was for him to be able to help the American people in a tough time'.

Even many in his party are keeping their distance.

Good thing he's not running again.

Guess he wants to guarantee that he's remembered for something; even if that is being remembered for all the wrong reasons.

I'm sure if he raised his shirt-sleeve, he must have a tattoo that says Massengill, as he is assuredly a douche.
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