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Old 07-06-2012, 04:17 AM   #76
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Oh, well that's it then I guess. The bible is real. What should we tackle next, gang?
I'm curious what other debates The Edge has conclusively settled through a personal endorsement. Is facial hair preferable to being clean-shaven because The Edge has a beard?
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Old 07-06-2012, 05:07 AM   #77
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Well, The Edge likes and respects the book. He recently read passages from it at his mothers funeral.
The Edge is god, of course he likes what he wrote!
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Old 07-06-2012, 07:58 AM   #78
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Well, The Edge likes and respects the book. He recently read passages from it at his mothers funeral.
Where'd you learn to debate? I am thoroughly impressed.
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Old 07-06-2012, 08:10 AM   #79
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as for Scientology, here's what i don't get: why can't people leave? like, i get how, say, if certain hollywood stars were to, say, admit to fooling around with male masseurs in hotel rooms during an auditing session and this session were recorded, that the church could use that as blackmail against said celebrity. but there are, like, 40,000 members of the church, right? how do they keep ordinary people in the fold? or prevent them from spilling the beans in a way that Paul Haggis did? only more so? i assume the Church sues everyone for defamation?

it's all so weird to me.
They brand you a suppressive person and then your family (who are presumably mostly within the CoS) are no longer allowed to have contact with you. If you read accounts from people who have left, they commonly have no contact with their children, parents, siblings, even spouses in cases where they don't flee together. This is a really high price and not everyone is willing to pay it.

Super creepy organization, but seems like it's really coming undone. There is a reason Katie Holmes is trying to control the media reaction to the divorce.

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Well actually for a certain group of people, anything in the Bible like above is questioned, and scrutinized to the nth degree, while everything else written back then gets a pass.
Who said everything else gets a pass?
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Well actually for a certain group of people, anything in the Bible like above is questioned, and scrutinized to the nth degree, while everything else written back then gets a pass.

Right. Which is crazy.
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Who said everything else gets a pass?
And what is 'everything else' in reference to? The Bible is making some fairly heavy claims, to say the least, and is used by many in attempts to influence daily life still today. Why wouldn't it receive more scrutiny than other writings of the time?
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Who said everything else gets a pass?
Yeah, Im still not convinced by this whole "gravity" thing...
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Multi-quote feels left out of this conversation.
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i agree too!

what i love about contemporary religions like Mormonism and Scientology is how much they remind us about the shaky foundations of all religions. it's *all* really hokey stuff. reading ancient tablets with magic glasses is only weirder than turning water into wine because of the veil of history. a story detailing how Xenu of the Galactic Confederacy murdered his people with hydrogen bombs near volcanoes is really no more or less realistic than a petty, spiteful, jealous god creating the world in 7 days and creating a woman out of a man's rib. it serves as a good reminder to all of us to be much more humble and self-aware when making claims about the supernatural because we're all on shaky ground. let's be non-literal, and inclusive, and most of all know how little we actually know.

amirite IH?
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