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Old 11-05-2008, 11:25 PM   #16
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Oh, I see. I didn't know it worked like that. And that kinda doesn't make sense to donate that way.....why give $20 to my boss to give to Obama instead of just giving it to Obama? Why do companies even have such things? I don't like that.
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Old 11-05-2008, 11:29 PM   #17
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Oh, I see. I didn't know it worked like that. And that kinda doesn't make sense to donate that way.....why give $20 to my boss to give to Obama instead of just giving it to Obama? Why do companies even have such things? I don't like that.
a very small amount of my very small paycheck goes to a PAC that uses the money to further the political goals of the parent organization, which i support. i imagine employees give money to their company PACs for similar reasons.
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Old 11-05-2008, 11:30 PM   #18
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OK, so then how does the PAC decide who to give the money to? If I give to a PAC and I like McCain, I don't want my money going to Obama. I'm confused.
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Old 11-05-2008, 11:32 PM   #19
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OK, so then how does the PAC decide who to give the money to? If I give to a PAC and I like McCain, I don't want my money going to Obama. I'm confused.
it's a bit confusing...

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most PACs would have a clear agenda and i doubt a PAC would blatantly misdirect funds - why would people continue to donate? though anything is possible i suppose...
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Old 11-06-2008, 08:50 AM   #20
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The message often seems to get lost on the (lack of) credibility of the messenger.

Is it really news that the powers that be exert significant influence on the choice of candidates and the outcome of elections? Hardly.

As always, the president-elect owes a big debt to those who got him elected - which seems to be a balancing act between special interest money and voters.

For decades, middle class voter apathy has typically allowed special interest to win government and legislative support.

The tide has most definitely turned so it will be interesting to watch Obama in action.

When political parties switch, nothing really changes - when the middle class is mobilized with a momentum to change - we get what we want.

What we want is pretty simple - security and a comfortable lifestyle. How we go about getting that in the current climate will put our deepest values and beliefs to the test. Individually and collectively.
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I don't mind politicians accepting money from corporations - it's what they give back to the corporations that bothers me.
Yeah. Its like you don't care that your wife takes money from strange men, you just don't like the idea of what she gives back to them that bothers you.
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Old 11-06-2008, 09:48 PM   #22
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Yeah. Its like you don't care that your wife takes money from strange men, you just don't like the idea of what she gives back to them that bothers you.
Well, in that scenario it's what she brings home to me that the strange men gave her - aside from the money. But yeah, good analogy nonetheless.
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The political system is bigger than single candidates, entrenched self-interested groups enable particular types of politicians to succeed, a form of non-random selection.
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i have to say the title of this thread is just wrong on so many levels
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