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Old 09-05-2008, 02:51 PM   #706
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it's a very simple choice:

do you want someone with a military back ground,
that has been an inspiration to millions
that was overwhelmingly elected by the citizens in his home state,
led in hard times to turn the economy around and put people to work
all the while battling the old guard


or do you want to follow someone that just happens to be:

a person of color
that went to law school
and became a lawyer
and took a low paying job as a community activist





























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Old 09-05-2008, 03:11 PM   #707
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Speaking of '20th century, go to sleep'...

Inspired maybe, but over the line.
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Old 09-05-2008, 03:18 PM   #708
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Now that the convention is over even w Sarah I have no false illusions.
Sure Mac is a good man, but he still has a large hill to climb.

Unless he wins the debates -O will win.

At this point in time, it's still Barry's and his to lose.

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I'd say it's as good as

Jesus was a community organizer

Pontius Pilate was a governor



or Sarah Palin is same as convicted felon Marion Barry
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Old 09-05-2008, 03:20 PM   #710
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Now that the convention is over even w Sarah I have no false illusions.
Sure Mac is a good man, but he still has a large hill to climb.

Unless he wins the debates -O will win.

At this point in time, it's still Barry's and his to lose.

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My hope is that the McCain we see for the rest of the race is the McCain we saw last night.
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Old 09-05-2008, 03:26 PM   #711
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deep, your post is ridiculous.

Because Obama wasn't elected by the citizens of his State? Because he doesn't inspire millions? What garbage honestly, do you even want to have an honest debate?
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Old 09-05-2008, 03:32 PM   #712
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hey, I'd vote for Gandhi over ( that other guy) experience and military service.

and I'd vote for Jesus (Obama) over Pontius Pilate ( Palin )
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Old 09-05-2008, 04:04 PM   #713
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Has it? I haven't seen that. If you have the info, could you post it. I'd rather not pass the stat on if it's not true. Thanks.
just yesterday:

Daily Kos: State of the Nation
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Jesus was a community organizer




so is al sharpton...



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Old 09-05-2008, 05:50 PM   #715
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Nancy Wilson should be happy. This is the 1st time in 20 years that Heart has done anything worthy of getting their name in the paper. I'm sure Katrina and the Waves, Suzanne Vega and The Bangles are all green with envy!
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I'd say it's as good as

Jesus was a community organizer

Pontius Pilate was a governor



or Sarah Palin is same as convicted felon Marion Barry

i believe the entire point of my posts and yours as that you have to judge someone on their entire being, and even then, you still simply have to use your gut feeling... because even the most experienced of people sometimes aren't the best choices for the job. and sometimes the most inexperienced is the best. and sometimes the most experienced is the best. and sometimes the least experienced is the worst.

every one is different, and every candidate should be judged on their own all around merit... but in the end you just go with your gut and hope you picked the guy who can become great.

i honestly do believe in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 that george bush had an opportunity to become one of the greatest leaders we have ever had. then he went... took his gun, turned it around and shot himself in the face.

or was that cheney

whatever.

some people, even when they're handed a chance at immortality on a silver plater still spill the soup.

i think mccain will be a good president. obama could be one of the best we ever had, or he could be a disaster. high risk/high reward.

i'm done rambling now.
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i honestly do believe in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 that george bush had an opportunity to become one of the greatest leaders we have ever had. then he went... took his gun, turned it around and shot himself in the face.

or was that cheney

whatever.

some people, even when they're handed a chance at immortality on a silver plater still spill the soup.
can't argue with that.
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I haven't seen any reason to believe that Palin had tough decisions to make as governor of Alaska- this is a state so wealthy from oil revenue that they literally pay people to live there. No state sales or income taxes. Mock Kathleen Sebelius all you want, but the other 49 state governors actually need to balance social services with taxes. In that regard being governor of Alaska sounds rather unique.
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I haven't seen any reason to believe that Palin had tough decisions to make as governor of Alaska- this is a state so wealthy from oil revenue that they literally pay people to live there. No state sales or income taxes. Mock Kathleen Sebelius all you want, but the other 49 state governors actually need to balance social services with taxes. In that regard being governor of Alaska sounds rather unique.
don't forget about the millions of dollars in earmarks that the state has received from the federal government!
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i think mccain will be a good president. obama could be one of the best we ever had, or he could be a disaster. high risk/high reward.
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high risk/high reward. or high risk/high loss


I have said the same thing in different words
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